Video: HUD and radio comms of F-16s evading missles

This is a two and a half minute video of F-16s evading SAMs from either Iraq or Kosovo. The video quality is poor, but you can definitely see the SAM contrails in the second half of the video.

See: http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/LucasStL/1180/

That was great-I mean for us to learn from. I'm not surprised at all in the amount of stress in the pilots voices. But I am confused in some parts of this video. Does anyone have any knowledge of this Clip?

Thanks

EDIT: So far as I can tell, The name of callsign of the pilot in this HUD camera is Stroke 3?

Also when you watch this around 1:43- 1:44 I think you can see another SAM launch as the pilot makes a hard bank to the left. it's quick, but keep an eye out for it.

That HUD tape was from the first gulf war. It is the 614th Lucky Devils out of Torrejon. That was the first daytime raid over Baghdad. We lost 2 jets that day. Both pilots punched out and were caught and became POW's. the jets were 87-0257 and 228 I believe.

What does "defending" mean? Evasive manuvers and attempting to kill the enemy launcher?

Holy crap, talk about INTENSE!!!!!
Hey Stutler, when where you at Homestead?

If you think that's intense, you should see the rest of the video, what you are seeing is 'ET' defending and 'dodging' at least six SAM's in less than ten minutes as his altitude and airspeed were forced lower during the longest sustained 'High-G' evasion that I've ever seen - before he was able to make his escape. As Stutler ([serial]87-0242[/serial]'s crew chief - Hi again, Scott!) said, this footage was taken by the pilots of the 614th TFS 'Lucky Devils' on the 19th of January 1991, during the first daylight raid on downtown Baghdad - during Package Q, the largest single strike mission of the war, and likely the single largest F-16 strike package ever flown into combat.

Sadly the Lucky Devils lost two aircraft to SAMs that day with both of the pilots, Mike 'Cujo' Roberts flying [serial]87-0228[/serial] and Jeff 'Tico' Tice in [serial]87-0257[/serial] being captured and held as POW's.

For more information about the Lucky Devils and the Package Q mission, I invite you to visit the Lucky Devils in the Gulf War at:
http://www.lucky-devils.net
3.7 million pounds of ordinance, 1303 sorties, 42 days, 24 aircraft. The 'Forgotten 1000'.

Mike Kopack

Impressive vid.

Another note to this video. Maj. Emmet "ET" Tulla came back squaking code 1. After walking around the jet, he changed it to code 2 (In my mind after what he went through should have been a code 3). His entire Chaff/Flare modules were full!!!!! They never fired off, so all that manuvering w/out counter measures. Some good flying!!!

Happy_Gilmore wrote:Holy crap, talk about INTENSE!!!!!
Hey Stutler, when where you at Homestead?

I got there in 91 after the gulf war. Went to the 307th. It was still starting up. I think we only had about 6-10 jets then. I left when andrew came thru and re-arranged the base. The 307th was pretty much all TJ and Hann people.

MKopack wrote:If you think that's intense, you should see the rest of the video,

Mike, is the rest of the video available?

MKopack wrote:Sadly the Lucky Devils lost two aircraft to SAMs that day with both of the pilots, Mike 'Cujo' Roberts flying 87-0228[/serial] and Jeff 'Tico' Tice in [serial]87-0257 being captured and held as POW's.

There is an article on Code One's website about Lt. Joey Booher's experience, he mentions Tico in the article.

MKopack wrote:[b]For more information about the Lucky Devils and the Package Q mission, I invite you to visit the Lucky Devils in the Gulf War at:
http://www.lucky-devils.net

Nice website!

FDiron wrote:This is a two and a half minute video of F-16s evading SAMs from either Iraq or Kosovo. The video quality is poor, but you can definitely see the SAM contrails in the second half of the video.

See: http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/LucasStL/1180/

You can download the video (an .flv file) and then download this free flv player, allowing you to enlarge the video for better viewing

Lurch wrote:Another note to this video. Maj. Emmet "ET" Tulla came back squaking code 1. After walking around the jet, he changed it to code 2 (In my mind after what he went through should have been a code 3). His entire Chaff/Flare modules were full!!!!! They never fired off, so all that manuvering w/out counter measures. Some good flying!!!

That's a scary thought Lurch. With that many missiles in the air, and with that many specifically guiding on him, to not have any working expendible countermeasures (excepting the ECM pod). Do you have any idea what acft he was in?

As I recall, the first part of the video (showing Cujo being hit) was taken by Col. Nelson (although I could be wrong on that as well...) I can remember being part of a group of 4-5 guys talking to him as he stepped out of debrief. He took the time to explain exactly what had happened and what he'd seen up over Baghdad, when I'm sure he had a hundred other things on his mind.

habu2 wrote:Mike, is the rest of the video available?

Ahhh, the $64,000 question... there are a good number of copies of the video out there. I have a copy on VHS and DVD (thanks to those that supplied me!) but have no way of making additional copies. Anyone up for a little dubbing session?

About a year ago I spoke with Keith "Rosey" Rosenkranz (http://www.vipersinthestorm.com/) who was with the 388TFW on the Package Q mission:

Keith "Rosey" Rosenkranz wrote:I was roughly 60 miles in front of Maj. Tice when he was shot down. The strike package we flew in was the largest of the war - 78 aircraft. And the mission to knock out Saddam Hussein's nuclear research facility was arguable the most important mission of the war.

This particular flight to Baghdad happened to be my second combat mission. And it was a long one - over 7 hours.

I had just come off target and because of all of the flack around me, I pulled my nose up too quickly and got slow. As I was turning south, I plugged in the afterburner to help regain speed. Within seconds, my RAW indicator signaled to me that an SA-6 had locked on my jet and was heading in my direction.

As I continued to climb, I looked off my right shoulder toward the ground and saw the missile streaking towards me. Knowing I was slow, I hit the emergency jettison switch so I could get rid of my wing tanks. As strange as this may sound, I wanted to see what the tanks looked like when they came off the jet. I banked the jet back to the left and looked over my left shoulder. The tanks were tumbling in slow motion toward the ground. The vapor from the moisture in the air seemed to wrap around them. To this day, I can still see those tanks tumbling!!!

When I got that thrill out of my system, I decided I had better look back to see if the SA-6 was still guiding on me. Nice priotities, huh? As it turned out, the missile went behind my jet and began to fall back toward the ground.

I finally got my airspeed and altitude back and began to work out the rejoin with my flight lead. The steerpoint I was flying to was set for the southern border of Iraq. I remember seeing the DME hit 180 when Maj. Tice started screaming on the radios that he had taken a hit. At that point the radios fell silent as everyone listened for his next call.

Within minutes, an EF-111 eventually joined on Tico and started escorting him to the south. As time passed, Tico's F-16 started to lose oil pressure. We had a long ways to go and in my heart I knew he probably wasn't going to make it. His engine eventaully seized and his EPU fired, which allowed him to keep his hydraulics for ten minutes. This would give him the ability to still use his flight controls.

When Maj. Tice got to the point where he had to eject, he called out, "I'm giving it my best Bogart." He then said, "That's all I've got." I was taken back by his calmness. My friend Maj Scott "Foot" Goodfellow clicked his mike and replied bluntly, "Good luck!"

I had tears streaming down my face when Tico ejected. I can still hear his voice and I will never forget that mission.

Mike Kopack

That video was Col. Nelson's HUD tape. By the way Desert Storm was his 3rd air campaign. He flew in Korea and Vietnam as well.

You're welcome Mike.

I'd like to ask a couple of questions:

1. If Nelson has flew Korea and Vietnam, then in 1991 he must have been nearly 60, or I am terribly wrong ?
2. Someone at 00:52 screams "Egressing southeast !" is that one of the hit birds ?

1) Picture of Col. Nelson (w/ Cpt. Lane) (Soory for the poor image, I'm not the best computer geek.)

2) That was "ET" flying Southeast. Egressing meaning to leave the area.