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Unread post09 Jan 2020, 02:13

The Cost of Replacing Today’s Naval Aviation Fleet
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/55949

Under the assumption that F-35B/Cs would have a 30-year service life, an additional $36 billion would be incurred in the final decade of CBO’s projection period when they would need to begin being replaced. Because it is unlikely that the Navy and Marine Corps would simultaneously develop two entirely new aircraft, CBO assumed that replacements for the F-35B and F-35C would be substantial upgrades akin to the upgrade from the Hornet to the Super Hornet. Procurement of replacements for the F-35B/C would continue after 2050.

Another group of about 500 fighter/attack aircraft—the F/A-18E/F Super Hornets—are expected to reach the end of their service life beginning in the early to mid-2030s. According to CBO’s projections, the Navy would develop a new aircraft—currently called the FA-XX—to replace its Super Hornets. Production of that aircraft would begin in 2032 and cost $67 billion for the first 448 aircraft purchased through 2050.


CBO hints that it could be cheaper to just buy F-35Cs for F-18E/F replacement (after the initial 18 sqns). That could really depend on how fast FA-XX is developed but it does give some insurance against developmental delays. This is also relevant since fighters will occupy half of the total costs. The oldest F-18E/F units are 22 years (in 2019).

I read this as a potential of an upgraded F-35B which may be cheaper than developing a new F-35B replacement. Considering age of the oldest F-35B is only 7 years (in 2019) - see page 14, that's going to be a 2040s/2050s issue. The timeline also suggests FA-XX will not have a STOVL variant.
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Unread post09 Jan 2020, 05:16

Current plan is to equip each CVW with two F-35C Squadrons. Yet, that will be completed. Before the F/A-XX ever enters service. So, odds are good the USN will just continue to buy additional F-35C's in the meantime....


That should be no surprise as that is what the Super Hornet is doing today....(i.e. replacing Hornet until the F-35C is available in numbers)
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Unread post09 Jan 2020, 05:39

USNI Looks at CBO report: https://news.usni.org/2020/01/07/estima ... the-future

FightGlobular says at least the 'LIGHTING' may be on the cards (yes I know): "Source: US Navy F-35C Lighting II aircraft aboard USS Abraham Lincoln https://d3lcr32v2pp4l1.cloudfront.net/P ... 363120.jpg
Why bother: https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing ... 49.article
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Unread post10 Jan 2020, 08:03

weasel1962 wrote:The oldest F-18E/F units are 22 years (in 2019).


But those Block I's wouldn't dictate the timeline since the new build Block III's are replacing them.
And the Service Life Modification program is supposed to run for the next 15 years at a peak rate
of 40/aircraft delivered a year.

So crazily, as CBO identified, the Navy could be in a position for another service life extension.
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Unread post24 Jan 2020, 00:55

Lightning strikes Miramar...VMFA-314 receives its first F-35C

https://www.marines.mil/News/Press-Rele ... rst-f-35c/
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Unread post24 Jan 2020, 01:13

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Unread post24 Jan 2020, 01:32

Never posted an article in German before...thought I do the same with the translation in the former link.

https://www.flugrevue.de/militaer/vmfa- ... ine-corps/
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Unread post27 Jan 2020, 06:05

Delete (already posted)
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Unread post27 Jan 2020, 06:29

For some reason 'marsavian' put the same post earlier in own thread in the 'milestones' section: viewtopic.php?f=57&t=56578&p=433654&hilit=dedicates#p433654
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Unread post27 Jan 2020, 07:36

The reason being it was a milestone not met, i.e. F-35C full scale production in 2019 plus it went into details on production lots, more milestone stuff.
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Unread post27 Jan 2020, 07:38

They need to get production of the F-35C up to at least 30 per year. If, they want to field two squadrons of Lightnings per Air Wing (CVW) annually.
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