VMFA(AW)-242 to swap F/A-18D for F-35B from October

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Unread post24 Oct 2020, 06:33

Second F-35B Squadron Officially Established In Indo-Pacific Region With The Redesignation Of VMFA-242
23 Oct 2020 1st Marine Aircraft Wing

"IWAKUNI, Japan -- On October 16, Marine Aircraft Group 12 re-designated Marine All Weather Fighter Attack Squadron 242 to Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 242 as part of the Marine Corps’ ongoing transition process from legacy F/A-18 Hornet aircraft to the newer 5th generation F-35B Lightning II. This transition is in accordance with mutual agreements between the U.S. and the Government of Japan, and occurred on schedule per the annual Marine Corps aviation plan.

The F-35 represents the future of Marine Corps tactical aviation and will eventually replace the AV-8B Harrier, the F/A-18 Hornet, and the EA-6B Prowler in all units across the Marine Corps. MAG-12 received the first forward-stationed F-35B squadron in January, 2017 when VMFA-121 was relocated to Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni, Japan. With the addition of VMFA-242, MAG-12 is now the only overseas unit with two permanently stationed F-35B squadrons...."

Source: https://www.marines.mil/News/News-Displ ... th-the-re/
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Unread post26 Oct 2020, 02:05

Just another headache for the Chinese Military!
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Unread post04 Nov 2020, 02:13

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I have a question for yoy guys.
I recently saw this chart for future squadrens
Thats seems very low for what America needs versus a peer.
Of the 16 F-35C embarked will that include marine numbers or is that discounting the marines.
Are we talking 26 F-35s when you add 10 marines strike jets?
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Unread post04 Nov 2020, 03:09

Would and will be always nice to have a reference for information including an URL for the CONTEXT IN IT - thanks. :bang:

With STINGRAY tankers onboard all the Super Hornets are strike aircraft, why do there need to be more F-35Cs? The graphic from whatever source is what it is. There are other fast jets onboard then helos and V-22s. Do we know the composition of USMC F-35C squadrons? NOT that I know and why would they not match the USN F-35C squadron numbers to fit into the equation (especially if they are the only F-35C squadron onboard at the time). I'm always amazed by the lack of acceptance of OFFICIAL (if that is what this graphic is & not some 'pie in the sky maybe' idea) FUTURE whatevers.
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Unread post04 Nov 2020, 03:34

jessmo112 wrote:
message-editor_1604441990761-cvw.jpg
I have a question for yoy guys.
I recently saw this chart for future squadrens
Thats seems very low for what America needs versus a peer.
Of the 16 F-35C embarked will that include marine numbers or is that discounting the marines.
Are we talking 26 F-35s when you add 10 marines strike jets?



I would assume USMC F-35C Units would also have 16 aircraft. Yet, I am just speculating....
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Unread post04 Nov 2020, 03:41

spazsinbad wrote:Would and will be always nice to have a reference for information including an URL for the CONTEXT IN IT - thanks. :bang:

With STINGRAY tankers onboard all the Super Hornets are strike aircraft, why do there need to be more F-35Cs? The graphic from whatever source is what it is. There are other fast jets onboard then helos and V-22s. Do we know the composition of USMC F-35C squadrons? NOT that I know and why would they not match the USN F-35C squadron numbers to fit into the equation (especially if they are the only F-35C squadron onboard at the time). I'm always amazed by the lack of acceptance of OFFICIAL (if that is what this graphic is & not some 'pie in the sky maybe' idea) FUTURE whatevers.


Here is the article in question.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... -squadrons.

16 seems like its to low. Im assuming (or maybe im just the a** in assume) that by 2030 the navy will face red air 5th generation fighters. Just barely squadrens dont be enough jets to go down town and hit targets AND hunt down stealthy attack planes.
Spaz I await your commentary on this issue with baited breath.
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Unread post04 Nov 2020, 04:16

spazsinbad wrote:Would and will be always nice to have a reference for information including an URL for the CONTEXT IN IT - thanks. :bang:

With STINGRAY tankers onboard all the Super Hornets are strike aircraft, why do there need to be more F-35Cs? The graphic from whatever source is what it is. There are other fast jets onboard then helos and V-22s. Do we know the composition of USMC F-35C squadrons? NOT that I know and why would they not match the USN F-35C squadron numbers to fit into the equation (especially if they are the only F-35C squadron onboard at the time). I'm always amazed by the lack of acceptance of OFFICIAL (if that is what this graphic is & not some 'pie in the sky maybe' idea) FUTURE whatevers.



The USN/USMC really wanted enough F-35C's to field two F-35C Squadrons per CVW. (10 aircraft each) Yet, the budget just wasn't there...

So, my "guess" is the number did support "16" aircraft. So, they just adjusted the new Air Wing to reflect that.
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Unread post04 Nov 2020, 05:58

'jessmo112' I'll presume you meant this: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/with--bated--breath Otherwise I ain't takin' dat bait. Commenting on DRIVE by B/S is not worth my time nor yours. Who knows what 2030 will bring let alone tomorra.

Ten years ago in 2010 approx. the F-35C could not catch a break let alone a wire. So you want to know what is happening in 2030? I'll let you know then. AFAIK the USMC have not decided upon make up of their F-35 squadrons - just talked about a change without a final word. So I'll wait for that also. As suggested perhaps like other things they'll match USN F-35Cs.
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Unread post04 Nov 2020, 07:30

Honestly, the USN maybe just playing a little politics. Hoping to get additional funding from the Congress. So, they could field two F-35C's Squadrons with 10 aircraft each vs one with 16 aircraft.


Wouldn't surprise me one bit..... :wink:
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Unread post04 Nov 2020, 23:46

jessmo112 wrote:
spazsinbad wrote:Would and will be always nice to have a reference for information including an URL for the CONTEXT IN IT - thanks. :bang:

With STINGRAY tankers onboard all the Super Hornets are strike aircraft, why do there need to be more F-35Cs? The graphic from whatever source is what it is. There are other fast jets onboard then helos and V-22s. Do we know the composition of USMC F-35C squadrons? NOT that I know and why would they not match the USN F-35C squadron numbers to fit into the equation (especially if they are the only F-35C squadron onboard at the time). I'm always amazed by the lack of acceptance of OFFICIAL (if that is what this graphic is & not some 'pie in the sky maybe' idea) FUTURE whatevers.


Here is the article in question.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... -squadrons.

16 seems like its to low. Im assuming (or maybe im just the a** in assume) that by 2030 the navy will face red air 5th generation fighters. Just barely squadrens dont be enough jets to go down town and hit targets AND hunt down stealthy attack planes.
Spaz I await your commentary on this issue with baited breath.


Super hornets first deployed on CVNs in small numbers and their critical contribution was mostly as tankers.

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