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Unread post19 Sep 2019, 18:24

Even saint Bernie wanted them there, so they can do whine all they want. That place sucks so bad they have to pay people to live there because their population is GTFOing

Vermont Wants To Pay You $10,000 To Move There And Work

The remote working movement is hotter than ever. According to Deskmag, an online magazine about coworking, a staggering 1.7 million people will work remotely in 2018. Remote-working concepts like Terminal 3 and Remote Year are proliferating, not to mention coworking spaces, which are on the rise globally.

Now, Vermont wants a piece of the action. Yes, Vermont.

The state is trying to attract new residents with a clever campaign aimed at the remote-working movement. Governor Phil Scott just approved a piece of legislation that will pay 100 people up to $10,000 to move to Vermont in 2019 with the new "Remote Worker Grant Program."

To be eligible, applicants must be employed fulltime by a business outside of Vermont. The grant will cover moving expenses, membership fees for a coworking space and more. The applicant must become a fulltime resident of the state in 2019. And after the initial stage, 20 people a year will be eligible for grants.
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Unread post19 Sep 2019, 18:31

There's probably a minimal salary to qualify and they probably think they'll get the $10k back in taxes.
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Have F110, Block 70, will travel
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Unread post20 Sep 2019, 13:55

“It’s really important to us to do everything we can to mitigate the impact on the community,” he said.
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“Ten years from now, we need to have figured out how to use this F-35 thing, and it’s going to be the lead as the wings fall off some of these old airplanes,” Bryan said.
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“It’s been over a decade in the making,” Market said. “It’s a remarkable airplane. ... It does truly amazing things, and I’m really excited to be able to fly it.”

Source: https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your ... n-vermont/
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Unread post21 Sep 2019, 21:28

PICTURES: US Air National Guard gets first Lockheed Martin F-35s
20 Sep 2019 Garrett Reim

"...Seven F-35As will arrive in Vermont through 2019, with the base to eventually receive 20 of the fighters, says Lockheed Martin....

...The company says it has delivered more than 425 F-35s. It says it has trained more than 890 pilots and 8,230 maintainers...."

Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ed-461005/

First F-35s for the Air National Guard
20 Sep 2019 David Donald

"...“The arrival of the F-35 is a significant milestone for the Green Mountain Boys of the Vermont Air National Guard and state of Vermont. The incredible hard work and dedication from our airmen and the support from our families and community have brought us to this very moment,” said Colonel David Smith, 158th Fighter Wing commander....

...F-35As will supplant F-16s throughout the active-duty and reservist units over the coming years. The next two ANG bases to receive the type have been named as Truax Field ANGB in Madison, Wisconsin, and Dannelly Field in Montgomery, Alabama. Under current plans both locations will receive F-35As in 2023, the Wisconsin location being first. Gowen Field (Boise, Idaho), Selfridge ANGB (Michigan) and Jacksonville ANGS (Florida) were also considered, and are likely to be in the next tranche of ANG bases to receive the F-35. The first Air Force Reserve base is to be Naval Air Station-Joint Reserve Base Fort Worth, Texas."

Photo:: "On arrival at Burlington the F-35s were greeted by the flag of the Green Mountain Boys militia, which was founded in the late 1760s prior to the establishment of the Vermont Republic. (Photo: Air National Guard)" https://www.ainonline.com/sites/default ... 766076.jpg
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"The first aircraft earmarked for the Vermont ANG made its first flight at Fort Worth on July 31. (photo: Lockheed Martin)" https://www.ainonline.com/sites/default ... sw7-xl.jpg


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Unread post21 Sep 2019, 23:19

You know the last (and first I think) time the Guard got new airplanes from the factory was back in the 70's.....A-7Ds, because USAF didn't want them.

I'm still somewhat surprised, quality of life benefits versus image benefits, that ANG actively wants these.
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Unread post22 Sep 2019, 17:04

I'm ecstatic to see the ANG get new factory fresh jets instead of the hand-me-downs from active duty.
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Unread post22 Sep 2019, 19:44

Well, compared to the 50s-60s there haven't been that many pieces of 'new' equipment that has come down the pipe when Total Force came into being. But the Guard has gotten their fair share of shiny tools, especially given in time of war they are assimilated into active wings.
A few examples. They got some of the first F-16s in the early-mid 80s (https://www.amazon.com/Viper-Story-Part ... 0979506409), Maryland ANG got the first Guard A-10s in '79 (probably because they were already flying the A-37) and the VANG is flying F-22s with the 1st TFW now, in much the same arrangement the 388th has at Hill with the 419th Reserves flying the F-35.
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Unread post22 Sep 2019, 23:39

I'm not sure how many factory fresh A-10s the Maryland 175th got, they did get some showroom models as you say in '79. Tucson got around 15 or so brand new factory fresh A-7Ds from tail number 385 thru tail number 409 (minus a few for the 185th at Sioux City, 399 thru 407)....I picked up the last two built, 408 & 409 for the 162nd (first 2 off the line with maneuvering flaps installed) in early '79 some time at LTV. Oddly, 408 is now in a Maryland aviation museum with a horrendously unrealistic paint job.

I don't know for sure, but I don't believe any of the So Carolina 169th's Vipers were delivered fresh from the factory.....hand me downs, albeit fairly new and much desirable ones.

I'm not sure one can categorize Associate Unit aircraft as bright, shiny new Guard or Reserve stuff....more like USAF saying 'you can play with our toys if you're real nice'.

I wonder if the 158th will get some hand me downs mixed in the group. I wish the best for the 'Green Mountain Persons'. :D

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Unread post23 Sep 2019, 11:23

An article about Vermont noise. (I don't quote because it's long.)
https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/envi ... 8be37.html

After Vermont, it's Madison, Wisconsin.
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https://madison.com/wsj/opinion/editori ... 1ee66.html
F-35 experience in Madison will be similar to F-16s
Wisconsin State Journal editorial board
Military jets are loud when they fly over your home or neighborhood in and around Madison.

They have been for decades.

But the disturbance is brief and limited to a couple of takeoffs and landings per day. It also is justified to help ensure our nation is strong and protected.

Madison is close to landing the military’s most advanced F-35 fighter jets, which would replace a squadron of aging F-16s. Our region should welcome the new aircraft, expect similar and short intervals of noise from their engines, and help any residents who experience significantly louder impacts with sound proofing.

The jets enjoy bipartisan support from Wisconsin’s congressional delegation and strong backing from the business community. Moreover, a 1,000-page environmental assessment found no significant impact on air quality, soil, water, wildlife or vegetation.

Yet the potential noise from the F-35s’ more powerful engines has understandably drawn concern near Truax Field, the Air National Guard base that’s home to the 115th Fighter Wing on Madison’s North Side. A draft environmental impact study suggests more than 1,000 homes could experience higher daily noise averages above the level at which people tend to be disturbed.

If that turns out to be true, residents should be eligible for soundproofing from the federal government. We’d also encourage local governments to help if necessary, given that they will benefit substantially from additional jobs, construction and economic activity.

But that may not be needed, because strong evidence suggests the study’s complicated sound calculations are a worst-case scenario that’s unlikely to occur.

The study projects a 27% increase in military air operations after the transition to F-35s. But that fails to account for flights away from Truax. Based on historical averages, about 20% of flights will occur at other airfields. Winter weather will cancel some trips. The Guard expects to use more flight simulation. In addition, a Milwaukee refueling wing allows Madison’s fighter jets to stay in the air over rural Wisconsin longer, requiring fewer takeoffs.

Unlike the current F-16s, the F-35s can launch without using noisy afterburners. A Dutch study measured peak sound from F-35s at 109 dB, which was 3 dB less than the F-16s at the same locations. The Dutch also surveyed 1,500 households near two air bases. Participants perceived minor differences, pegging the F-16 as noisier.

Lt. Col. Charlie Merkel, a National Guard pilot overseeing the F-35 transition, told city officials last week the 115th will have the same number of aircraft and possibly only one more pilot if selected for the F-35.

“Therefore,” he concluded, “the resources to achieve a significant increase in the annual number of flights is not there.”

That’s reassuring.

Another important fact is that the vast majority of noise coming from the airport is created by commercial craft.

The State Journal editorial board has supported Madison’s pursuit of the F-35s, and the new report hasn’t changed that. We met with supporters and opponents of the jets last week, and respect concern for local constituents.

But Madison’s experience with the F-35s — including noise levels — should be similar to the city’s past and positive experience with the F-16s.
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Unread post23 Sep 2019, 16:25

Interesting article.

They use a 65 DNL to determine the noise contour around an airport, inside which eligible homes and any schools can receive federal funding thru the FAA AIP for soundproofing. It's been provided around O'Hare and LAX, as examples. That 65 DNL is a day/night average noise level and not the peak of any one noise event, so any particular overflight can produce well in excess of 65 decibels, the generally agreed threshold for 'discomfort'. I don't think the human ear soundproofing can prevent the plaster from coming off the wall from the ground shaking however.

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I wonder if you can soundproof a home based on 65 DNL to the extent that one might not hear a tornado siren. :shock:
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Unread post23 Sep 2019, 17:08

F-35 experience in Madison will be similar to F-16s
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A Dutch study measured peak sound from F-35s at 109 dB, which was 3 dB less than the F-16s at the same locations. The Dutch also surveyed 1,500 households near two air bases. Participants perceived minor differences, pegging the F-16 as noisier.

That is not what the Dutch study showed.

The F-16 had one spot where it was louder than the F-35 and that was due to the F-35 climbing faster so the measured peak of the F-16 was louder due to it flying lower, both planes had their highest peak at that spot.

Overall in the Dutch study it could be concluded that the F-35 was perceived as slightly louder than the F-16:
https://www.gemert-bakel.nl/sites/defau ... n-f-16.pdf
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Unread post23 Sep 2019, 22:30

VIA LM PR: Green Mountain Boys PICS: https://www.dvidshub.net/feature/f35vermont & https://www.dvidshub.net/image/5766070/ ... s-158th-fw
PHOTO: "Lt. Col. Nathan Graber, a pilot assigned to the 134th Fighter Squadron, 158th Fighter Wing, Vermont Air National Guard, and Lt. Col. Anthony Marek, a pilot and commander of the 134th FS, land the first two F-35 Lightning IIs assigned to the 158th FW at the Vermont Air National Guard Base, South Burlington, Vt., Sept. 19, 2019. The 158th FW is the first Air National Guard unit to receive the aircraft, and will be the second operational F-35 wing in the U.S. Air Force, and will receive a total of 20 over the following months. (U.S. Air National Guard Photo by Tech. Sgt. Ryan Campbell)" https://www.dvidshub.net/download/image/5766070 (JPG 6Mb)

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Unread post24 Sep 2019, 03:08

botsing wrote:
F-35 experience in Madison will be similar to F-16s
Wisconsin State Journal editorial board

A Dutch study measured peak sound from F-35s at 109 dB, which was 3 dB less than the F-16s at the same locations. The Dutch also surveyed 1,500 households near two air bases. Participants perceived minor differences, pegging the F-16 as noisier.

That is not what the Dutch study showed.

The F-16 had one spot where it was louder than the F-35 and that was due to the F-35 climbing faster so the measured peak of the F-16 was louder due to it flying lower, both planes had their highest peak at that spot.

Overall in the Dutch study it could be concluded that the F-35 was perceived as slightly louder than the F-16:
https://www.gemert-bakel.nl/sites/defau ... n-f-16.pdf

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Unread post28 Sep 2019, 22:29

A love call arrived from Florida. 8) Replace F-15CD with F-35? :devil:
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Rutherford, Rubio Renew Push for F-35s at the 125th Fighter Wing
September 26, 2019 Press Release
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, Congressman John Rutherford (FL-04) joined Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Representatives Matt Gaetz (FL-01), Michael Waltz (FL-06), and Mario Díaz-Balart (FL-25) to renew the effort to bring the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter to Jacksonville’s 125th Fighter Wing. In the letter, Rutherford urged Acting Secretary of the Air Force Matthew Donovan to include Air National Guard installations that operate F-15 C/D Eagles to be considered in the upcoming basing rounds. The Air Force is currently deciding which Active Duty, Reserve, and Air National Guard wings will be eligible for F-35 basing. The 125th Fighter Wing has twice been a finalist to receive the aircraft.

“Northeast Florida is home to world-class military installations like the 125th Fighter Wing in Jacksonville,” said Rutherford. “The homeland defense mission of the 125th Fighter Wing is critical to our national security and requires the most capable aircraft. Because of this, I am hopeful that the Air Force will consider the 125th in their upcoming F-35 basing decisions.”

Full text of the letter can be found below.

Dear Acting Secretary Donovan:

As the Air Force develops the enterprise definition for F-35 Operational Locations 9-11, we write to respectfully urge you to include Air National Guard installations that operate F-15 C/D Eagles. Recently, Dr. Roper testified before the House Armed Services Committee that more than two thirds of the F-15 C fleet is past its service life. This reality, coupled with the recent maintenance and sustainment challenges resulting in the grounding of many F-15Cs, requires a quick recapitalization to support our national defense.

A Florida installation would be an ideal home for these aircraft, their mission, and the personnel who will operate and maintain them. As you know, the Florida Air National Guard’s 125th Fighter Wing currently flies the F-15 C/D Eagles and is critical to the air defense mission for the southeastern United States. Because of its strategic location and access to unparalleled training infrastructure and airspace, including direct access to overwater operating areas without land overflight, the 125th is one of our nation’s premiere homeland defense wings. As we see increased threats from adversaries, it is critical that the aircraft operated by the 125th is recapitalized with the most capable fighters.

The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter’s mission is to provide complete battlespace domination in the form of electronic attack; air-to-surface stealth; air-to-air supremacy; and intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance world-wide in support of national defense objectives; in conjunction with other airborne assets within the Air Force inventory; some of which already reside in Florida. Basing these aircraft systems in close proximity will optimize training and operations efficiencies. Additionally, the 125th Fighter Wing has twice been a finalist for F-35 basing. The City of Jacksonville and the State of Florida have a long history of supporting our installations, including unmatched quality of life and reduced encroachment issues.

With increased procurement from Congress, and the increased F-15C sustainment challenges, we believe the Air Force will understand the urgent requirement to equip the 125th Fighter Wing with the most capable fifth-generation fighter. We look forward to the Air Force executing its strategic basing process and standby to assist in any way.
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