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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 02:05

Air Force’s proposed $169 billion budget focuses on ‘great power competition,’ readiness, establishing Space Force
10 Feb 2020 Charles Pope, Secretary of the Air Force Public Affairs

"ARLINGTON, Va. (AFNS) -- The Department of the Air Force released a $169 billion budget proposal Feb. 10, which for the first time includes funding for the newly created U.S. Space Force while also focusing funds to help both services modernize, address threats from Russia and China, and sustain readiness. The spending plan for fiscal year 2021 carries a $900 million increase from the previous year. But unlike 2020, funding for 2021 is apportioned differently, with $153.6 billion directed to the Air Force and $15.4 billion for the Space Force....

Specifically, the budget calls for spending $5.8 billion to purchase 48 F-35A Lightning II aircraft. It provides $3 billion to purchase 15 KC-46A Pegasus tankers and $1.4 billion for 12 F-15EX fighters....

...Threaded throughout the entire budget document is a focus on people and readiness. Funding to pay for flying hours increases in fiscal year 2021 to $6.6 billion. The budget envisions an increase in the Department’s force of active duty, Guard and Reserve by 1,500 personnel. That would bring the uniformed force to 512,100. Since April 2018, the Air Force has increased overall readiness by 16% and increased readiness for frontline units, known as pacing squadrons, by 35%....

...While Department of the Air Force officials say the 2021 budget request is the result of rigorous analysis and a series of “tough but necessary choices,” it represents only the starting point for the budget process. The proposal now goes to Congress for its consideration and what is likely to be months of deliberation, debate and revisions. Under the typical schedule, the budget for the new fiscal year must be approved and signed into law by the president by Oct. 1, 2020, when the new fiscal year begins."

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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 02:49

We are along way from the final budget....
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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 03:25

Total FY21 budget incl USN request is for 115 fighters (48 F-35A, 10 F-35B and 21 F-35C, 24 F-18E/F and 12 F-15EX) for FY 21.

FY 20 enacted was 128 comprising 98 F-35 (62 A, 16 B and 20 C) + 24 F-18E/F and 6 F-15EX (The 2 tech demo not included).

Nugget below.

FY 2021 Program:Continues procurement of the F-15EX, which will initially refresh the F-15C/D fleet with a planned buy of 144 aircraft, with the potential to refresh the remainder of the F-15C/D fleet and the F-15E fleet. Continues the F-15E Radar Modernization Program (RMP) to replace the legacy radar using existing technology from other aviation platforms and solve parts obsolescence problems to provide improved reliability and performance (increased synthetic aperture radar range and resolution), including air-to-air and air-to-ground modes. Continues engineering and manufacturing development efforts for the Eagle Passive/Active Warning Survivability System (EPAWSS) to improve F-15E survivability by enhancing the ability to detect, deny, or defeat air and ground threats. Ends F-15C/D modernization efforts, except the safety-of-flight longeron upgrade program, in anticipation of F-15C/D fleet retirement by the end of FY 2026.


The F-15EX will replace the C/Ds.
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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 04:02

I doubt the F-15EX will last more than 2-3 years. As the US Defense Budget gets tighter and tighter. Hell, FY2021 Budget alone is going to be a Knock-down, Drag out fight among the Services and Congress. Let alone FY2022-2023....


This isn't going to be pretty! :shock:


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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 04:35

with the potential to refresh the remainder of the F-15C/D fleet and the F-15E fleet.


Boeing mission creep, we vant to replace all your F-15s ! ;) Beware the ANG Trojan Eagle ! ;)
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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 04:40

wait until they lose PCA...what else can they replace with F-15s?

Don't want the talk to be dominated by F-15s. Table below reflects US only. F-35 appears to have shortfall of 7 for funding up to lot 14.
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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 04:49

Corsair1963 wrote:I doubt the F-15EX will last more than 2-3 years. As the US Defense Budget gets tighter and tighter. Hell, FY2021 Budget alone is going to be a Knock-down, Drag out fight among the Services and Congress. Let alone FY2022-2023....

This isn't going to be pretty! :shock:


The only thing that will stop F-15EX is a new President with a different mindset.
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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 04:53

...That will be in 2025 for budget for FY 2026 by which time, the F-15EX program would have funded 80 or more.
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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 04:57

So you think Trump has 2020 already in the bag ? You're probably right ;). Yes they will probably replace all the ANG F-15C if Trump wins but any further into F-15E stock will depend on future compliant Presidents.
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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 05:27

marsavian wrote:
Corsair1963 wrote:I doubt the F-15EX will last more than 2-3 years. As the US Defense Budget gets tighter and tighter. Hell, FY2021 Budget alone is going to be a Knock-down, Drag out fight among the Services and Congress. Let alone FY2022-2023....

This isn't going to be pretty! :shock:


The only thing that will stop F-15EX is a new President with a different mindset.



LOL :doh:

I suggest you do some reading on the brewing battle over the FY2021 Defense Budget.

WASHINGTON – The US Navy’s fiscal year 2021 budget slashes 10 planned ships over the next five years, a move a senior Navy official said shows a commitment to not hollow out the service to buy ships.

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2020/ ... iral-says/


WASHINGTON — U.S. President Donald Trump’s defense budget request for fiscal 2021 includes major investments in research and development portfolios as well as “crucial” technologies as part of what the Pentagon is branding an “irreversible implementation” of the National Defense Strategy.


However, the budget also features overall cuts to the Army and Navy top lines, as well as the divestment of legacy platforms from the Air Force.



https://www.defensenews.com/smr/federal ... cy-planes/


Air Force makes reductions to B-1s, A-10s, Global Hawk drones and more in FY21 budget requesthttps://www.defensenews.com/smr/federal-budget/2020/02/10/air-force-makes-reductions-to-b-1s-a-10s-global-hawk-drones-and-more-in-fy21-budget-request/

Budget Cuts 28 Legacy Tankers Despite KC-46 DelaysFeb. 10, 2020 | By Brian W. Everstine

https://www.airforcemag.com/air-force-b ... ty-issues/


Need I go on.............. :?
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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 05:29

marsavian wrote:So you think Trump has 2020 already in the bag ? You're probably right ;). Yes they will probably replace all the ANG F-15C if Trump wins but any further into F-15E stock will depend on future compliant Presidents.



The State of Florida is pushing the USAF to replace it's ANG F-15C's with New F-35A's..... :wink:



FYI- Trump can't win another term without the State of Florida. (something to consider)
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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 05:46

weasel1962 wrote:wait until they lose PCA...what else can they replace with F-15s?

Don't want the talk to be dominated by F-15s. Table below reflects US only. F-35 appears to have shortfall of 7 for funding up to lot 14.


Clearly, F-35 Production needs to increase to cover the current shortfalls.


As for the F-15's they can be easily replaced with additional F-35's. Then by time the PCA arrives it will start to replace the F-22's. When that is complete. They in turn would start to replace early production F-35's. Giving the future USAF in 2040+ a mix of 5th and 6th Generation Fighters. (and likely drones)


This is the whole point. The F-15(EX) is nearly obsolete now. While, the F-35 is vastly more capable. So, better to close the gap now by buying additional F-35's. Until the PCA/NGAD comes online in 2040. (if not later)
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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 05:56

Corsair1963, I'm not sure anyone in Congress is willing to fight the President politically on these F-15EX, they didn't last time as I predicted and they are not coming in more expensive than the F-35 so they are not an obvious budgetary target. The best one can hope for is that they only replace the F-15C/D fleet and not the F-15E fleet too. That should be the PCA's job. The PCA won't replace the F-22, it's a different type of bird.
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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 05:56

USAF Budget Request Flat in 2021

Feb. 10, 2020 | By John A. Tirpak

QUOTE:

Overall procurement funding declined by $1.4 billion, to $25.4 billion in 2021. Funding for aircraft and missile procurement remained flat, at $17.89 billion and $1.86 billion, respectively, but ammunition purchases dropped by $1 billion, and “other procurement” fell by $600 million.

The procurement request funds just 60 fighters, including 48 F-35As and 12 F-15EXs. The Air Force has said repeatedly it needs to buy 72 fighters a year to stop the aging of its fighter force, and the F-35A request again falls short of the 60 per year the service said it planned to be buying by now.

https://www.airforcemag.com/usaf-budget ... t-in-2021/
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Unread post11 Feb 2020, 06:00

marsavian wrote:Corsair1963, I'm not sure anyone in Congress is willing to fight the President politically on these F-15EX, they didn't last time as I predicted and they are not coming in more expensive than the F-35 so they are not an obvious budgetary target. The best one can hope for is that they only replace the F-15C/D fleet and not the F-15E fleet too.



Trump doesn't even know what the F-15EX is.... :|

Point here is the budget is getting very very tight. So, some very hard choices are coming....


Expect the battle for the FY 2021 to be one hell of a ride. :crazypilot:
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