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Unread post28 May 2019, 16:35

Finally... Poland can kick German butt for a change ;)
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Unread post29 May 2019, 01:15

krieger22 wrote:https://twitter.com/mblaszczak/status/1133260909894340608?s=21

The Polish Defense Minister has stated that they have sent a request for quotation regarding the purchase of 32 F-35As along with a logistics and training package




Poland Sends a Letter Of Request Concerning the F-35 Making A Step Forward In Its Effort To Acquire The Stealth Jet

The Polish MoD announced that it has sent a LOR (Letter Of Request) today, concerning the procurement of the Lockheed’s offering. Warsaw is willing to acquire the 5th generation stealth aircraft in its effort to modernize the Polish Air Force’s inventory.

The potential procurement includes 32 examples of the F-35A CTOL (Conventional Take Off and Landing) variant along with a training and logistics package. Błaszczak emphasized the fact that the acquisition is aimed at replacement of the older MiG-29 and Su-22 airframes. The Polish Air Force currently operates the aforesaid types, alongside 48 F-16 Block 52+ jets. The F-35 is to provide the Polish military aviation with an ability to work in an A2/AD bubble, that is expected to be formed should a potential conflict break out considering the geopolitical circumstances in which Poland currently finds itself.

Let us recall the fact that the MoD requested that the Harpia next generation MRCA (Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) program shall be accelerated back in November last year. The decision was fuelled by the fact that Polish Fulcrums have been involved in a couple of incidents and accidents recently which motivated the MoD to expedite the process. Lockheed Martin, according to TVN BiŚ, also assures that potential industrial input could also be provided, should Poland decide to proceed with the acquisition. TVN BiŚ also reports that Lockheed Martin’s Richard Edwards, Executive Vice President, Lockheed Martin International, declared that the jets could be delivered and reach IOC (Initial Operational Capability) status by 2024..............


https://theaviationist.com/2019/05/28/p ... Q1RFjxn5f4
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Unread post13 Jun 2019, 01:26

Spain’s military still has eyes for the F-35 despite European fighter push

MADRID – The Spanish navy and air force are still interested in the American F-35 fighter jet, even though the government is about to join a Franco-German program to develop a new European plane.

The two services are in the beginning stages of an analysis in which the Lockheed Martin-made aircraft is emerging as a key contender, officials told reporters on the sidelines of the FEINDEF defense expo here in late May...

https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... hter-push/
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Unread post13 Jun 2019, 04:40

zerion wrote:
Spain’s military still has eyes for the F-35 despite European fighter push

MADRID – The Spanish navy and air force are still interested in the American F-35 fighter jet, even though the government is about to join a Franco-German program to develop a new European plane.

The two services are in the beginning stages of an analysis in which the Lockheed Martin-made aircraft is emerging as a key contender, officials told reporters on the sidelines of the FEINDEF defense expo here in late May...

https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... hter-push/



Clearly, the F-35B is the only viable option for the Spanish Navy. Which, should make the F-35A even more attractive to the Spanish Air Force. Especially, combined with the latters low price. Yet, I doubt France and Germany would be to happy.
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Unread post04 Jul 2019, 10:11

From Romania, practically, it seems the statement "wants to F-35" was issued. 8)
(Language is all Romanian. I went through google translation.)
https://www.defenseromania.ro/le-romani ... 97681.html
Leş: Romania wants to buy F-35s
Tudor Curtifan / 03 Jul 2019 / 12:46
Minister Gabriel Leş held a press conference shortly after.
The Defense Minister spoke about the possibility of purchasing the F-35s of the fifth generation by our country.

F-35 for Romania, not earlier than 2028
Asked if Romania is thinking about the F-35 , Les answered without hesitation: " Yes, definitely, yes!" . The Minister of Defense added that our country will concretely discuss this with the strategic partner.

" It's a capability that we have in mind. We're caught in this program. If all things go well, we can discuss such a capability from 2028 onwards , "Gabriel Leş said.

Asked if a squadron could be discussed, he said that such information is technical issues that can only be explained after discussions on costs and other data, but Romania is interested in the F-35.

Launched in the early 1990s, the F-35 is the most expensive of US military weapons programs with a total estimated cost of nearly $ 400 billion for the Pentagon, with a target of nearly 2,500 units to be produced in the coming decades.

Its supporters praise its stealth technology, which allows it to pass undetected radar, supersonic speed, agility and sensors that give the pilot unparalleled access to a wide range of information.

https://www.aviatiamagazin.com/aviatie- ... oane-f-35/
Minister of Defense announces that Romania will buy F-35s
Lancer 3 Jul 2019
Defense Minister Gabriel Les announced that Romania is interested in V-F-35 Lightning II, and in less than a decade will try to acquire them.

The Romanian official said the F-35 is included in the Air Force endowment program and says the cost difference between a new Lightning II and a new F-16, the latest generation, is very low.

"We want this capability and we are caught in this program. However, the F-35s, as a price, within an arming program are close to the F16's new price, "Gabriel Leş told The Truth .

According to sources, the acquisition of the F-35 is considered starting in 2028, but it is not known whether there is any analysis of the number of devices and the overall cost of such a contract.

Until the F's 35, Gabriel Les announces for the second consecutive year that Romania will buy another five F-16 AM / BM fighters at the second hand to complete Squadron 53.

https://adevarul.ro/news/eveniment/surs ... index.html
The Ministry of Defense supplies the F-35 Air Force
July 3, 2019, 12:50
The National Defense Ministry decided on Wednesday to enter the state-of-the-art F-35 aircraft hunting airplane program. The Minister of Defense confirmed that Romania wants this capability and is caught in this program.
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Minister of Defense Gabriel Leş confirmed the interest of the Ministry of Defense for the acquisition of the most modern combat plane in the world. "We want this capability and we are caught up in this program. However, the F-35s, as a price, within an arming program are close to the price of the new F16 planes," said Gabriel Leş. In addition, Defense Minister Gabriel Leş announced that another five F16 planes will be bought, which are in the same configuration as the 12 already acquired so that there will eventually be an operational operational capability for this squadron.

"The MApN has decided to enter the F-35 airplane delivery program," said the MApN sources for "Adevărul". "From 2028 we will begin to equip the Air Force with these hunting avions. "Said the cited sources. In April, vice-admiral Mathias Winter, head of the Pentagon's F-35 office, told a Camra Representative's commission that "future potential customers in the field of military sales abroad include Singapore, Greece, Romania, Spain and Poland." Last year, Belgium announced that it chose the F-35 to the detriment of Eurofighter Typhoon to renew its F-16 fleet, a 4 billion-dollar business ($ 4.55 billion). The price of an F-35 starts at $ 100 million. The US group also offers offset: suppliers of parts from these countries will produce not only the devices that will be delivered to the national armed forces but for the whole F-35 program. In addition to the US headquarters, Lockheed Martin has set up F-35s in Italy, Turkey and Japan. Other US allies seeking to acquire the invisible F-35 aircraft are Finland, Switzerland and the Saudi Arabia.
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Unread post04 Jul 2019, 14:30

I would think that by 2028 (hell, right now) a new F-35 would cost as much as a new build F-16 - possibly less. I can see the Poles def going for it, the Romanians too. Greece, tough to say. They're going to need something to answer to whatever Turkey ends up flying, and the F-35 will be the cheapest/best option.

Singapore will order too, just a matter of how many of each. Great time to hold LM stock, or I imagine be working there...
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