JASDF may be in the market for more F-35s

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Unread post24 Aug 2020, 05:14

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised. If, Japan orders even more F-35's as time goes on. Which, would likely include the F-35B!
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Unread post24 Aug 2020, 16:56

Out of 45 airbases and airfields available to the Japan Self-Defense Forces (JSDF), only 20 are long enough to operate jets in the Japan Air Self-Defense Force (JASDF) fleet. Of these 20, only one airbase in the Pacific Ocean at Iwo To (Iwo Jima) has a runway long enough to operate the F-35A, limiting operational infrastructure in the region.

This can't be correct..

They aren't talking about airbases IN Japan, right? They must be talking about airbases in the region. Regardless, I wasn't under the impression the F-35A took any more runway length to operate than other jets in its class. If the F-35A can't operate out of all these airfields, I have to assume the same is true for most fast jets. Really makes me wonder why they're just waking up to this now?

What were they planning on doing, if the F-35B wasn't available??
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Unread post24 Aug 2020, 18:44

I don't pretend to know anything about Japanese military airports however they may be hamstrung by old regulations?
LDP lawmakers suggest turning Shimojishima airport into air base
24 Aug 2020 ALERT 5

"A group of lawmakers from Japan’s Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) are endorsing a proposal to allow the military to use the Shimojishima airport in Okinawa Prefecture.

Currently, the only runways to support fighter and early warning aircraft are located on Okinawa island. Only Shimojishima airport further south has a runway of 3,000 meters. The rest of the runways on the other islands are less than 2,000 meters.

Shimojishima island is suitable for military flights to intercept Chinese aircraft heading towards Senkaku islands. The distance to Senkaku from Shimojishima is 200 km, and is 420km for F-15s to fly from Okinawa to Senkaku.

The military is forbidden to use Shimojishima airport due to an agreement with the United States Military Government of the Ryukyu Islands in 1946."

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Unread post25 Aug 2020, 02:19

Like how aircraft carriers are called destroyers, it could be just a matter of redefining what "military" means. I suppose it helps further when translated into Japanese. Maybe they could do it like the Chinese and temporarily second any items to the coast guard for the training duration.
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Unread post25 Aug 2020, 02:51

Clearly, the US wouldn't object to a change in the 1946 agreement over the use of the airfield for military applications.
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Unread post25 Aug 2020, 07:01

They don't need. Under the 1971 agreement, all prior agreements are only valid to the extent that it is not contrary to public policy (Article V). The grant of use of the islands is reflected in Article III which in itself can be regarded as public policy and hence allowed.

https://ryukyu-okinawa.net/pages/archive/rev71.html
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Unread post25 Aug 2020, 07:29

weasel1962 wrote:They don't need. Under the 1971 agreement, all prior agreements are only valid to the extent that it is not contrary to public policy (Article V). The grant of use of the islands is reflected in Article III which in itself can be regarded as public policy and hence allowed.

https://ryukyu-okinawa.net/pages/archive/rev71.html



Clearly, you know much more than me about the subject. Yet, then what was the point of the story??? :?
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Unread post03 Sep 2020, 16:45

http://kite-misawa.com/misawa-curry/#airbasecurry

F-35A Misawa Airbase Curry, on sale from 2020/08/29.

Curry made with Aomori Prefecture pork and vegetables, based on the Misawa AB cafeteria recipe.

Curry packed as 200 g per retort bag, and 600 Yen (plus tax) per bag.

(I presume rice not included.)
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Unread post03 Sep 2020, 17:28

weasel1962 wrote:They don't need. Under the 1971 agreement, all prior agreements are only valid to the extent that it is not contrary to public policy (Article V). The grant of use of the islands is reflected in Article III which in itself can be regarded as public policy and hence allowed.

https://ryukyu-okinawa.net/pages/archive/rev71.html


There is also a 1971 Memorandum of Understanding between the Japanese government and the Ryukyu Islands government to consider. The domestic opposition to a military air base is where the real difficulty appears to lie:
http://english.ryukyushimpo.jp/2020/08/15/32524/
A meeting of the Liberal Democratic Party National Defense Parliamentary Group saw many participants put forth the idea that the Self-Defense Forces should be allowed to use Shimojishima Airport in Miyakojima City for the purpose of strengthening defense of the Nansei Islands. This argument contravenes a memorandum of understanding executed between the national government and the Okinawa Prefectural Government prohibiting military use of Shimojishima Airport. It further throws cold water on the efforts of locals and others who have worked hard to promote regional development through civilian use of the airport. We cannot accept this.
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Unread post04 Sep 2020, 01:58

It looks like a good spot to base Coast Guard F-35B patrols...
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Unread post04 Sep 2020, 02:29

Add a couple of pylon mounted drop-skids, and the coastguard might even have F-35B seaplanes. Land on water, no issue of melted decks.
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