UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

sprstdlyscottsmn · by **sprstdlyscottsmn** » 12 Nov 2019, 04:04

nice diagram

quicksilver · by **quicksilver** » 12 Nov 2019, 11:59

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For emphasis, these wind stars are from DT flight test. Notable bias away from right-hand winds for STO; similar bias for Pri-1 VL envelope as it is essentially the initial CQ envelope for Harrier. Would be interesting to see what the operational launch and recovery envelopes ended up looking like. RH winds at higher velocities are generally problematic due to the aero effects of the island; probably some potential HGI from the stacks as well.

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 12 Nov 2019, 18:23

For interest - UK F-35Bs Ordered: https://www.parliament.uk/business/publ ... -29/HL520/

noth · by **noth** » 12 Nov 2019, 20:26

Still no SRVL testing announced, I wonder what 617 Squadron are waiting for...

quicksilver · by **quicksilver** » 12 Nov 2019, 20:42

noth wrote:Still no SRVL testing announced, I wonder what 617 Squadron are waiting for...

I think it was covered in the summary at the end of one of the tv episodes; something like 20 of the 200 or so landings were srvl (or maybe I got that wrong?)

Found it at 55:40 of the last video posted on this thread by spaz (one page earlier).

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 12 Nov 2019, 20:59

The doco series was about the 1st test period at end of 2018. Apparently there will be more episodes at end of 2019 tests.

zerion · by **zerion** » 12 Nov 2019, 23:08

Launching and recovering aircraft while replenishing

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 13 Nov 2019, 01:03

quicksilver wrote:
noth wrote:Still no SRVL testing announced, I wonder what 617 Squadron are waiting for...

I think it was covered in the summary at the end of one of the tv episodes; something like 20 of the 200 or so landings were srvl (or maybe I got that wrong?)
Found it at 55:40 of the last video posted on this thread by spaz (one page earlier).

via e-mail: "These are the numbers disclosed by RN after last year's [2018] trials......

202 launches, 187 vertical deck landings, 15 SRVLs, 75 hours logged 'air' and 54 training weapons dropped."

optimist · by **optimist** » 15 Nov 2019, 03:20

I watched the 3 part second series on the HMS QE, about flight testing and first landing. I found it worth watching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0STceKVoMI&t=2164s
[YouTube]k0STceKVoMI&t=2164s[/YouTube]

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 15 Nov 2019, 03:35

optimist wrote:I watched the 3 part second series on the QE, about flight testing and first landing. I found it worth watching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0STceKVoMI&t=2164s
[YouTube]k0STceKVoMI&t=2164s[/YouTube]

Yes it is weird indeed - the way the series is promoted/numbered etc especially by our GOOD BRENDA but this URL is:

Series 2 Episode 1 shown on BBC TV 27 Oct 2019 BUT filmed in late 2018. The full episode here:

page 150 this thread: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=15969&p=429340&hilit=%5Baddition%5D#p429340

Made a clip about first VL & STO page 151 this thread 01 Nov 2019: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=15969&p=429427&hilit=KY3+Xelt+oI#p429427 VIDEO REPEATED BELOW

First Test F-35B VL & STO HMS Queen Elizabeth 25 Sep 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY3-Xelt-oI

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 15 Nov 2019, 04:53

For youse delectation as per post by 'optimist' above a TitledURL:

Lead Up to 1st F-35B VL & STO HMS Queen Elizabeth 25Sep'18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE9gFZF5xMM

zerion · by **zerion** » 15 Nov 2019, 17:29

From Twitter

We have flown our first #UKF35 multi-ship, launching 4 jets in quick succession and recovering on completion of their ‘mission’.

marsavian · by **marsavian** » 16 Nov 2019, 17:21

QE class fun facts

https://www.forces.net/services/navy/we ... heir-glory
https://www.forces.net/services/navy/we ... -her-glory

The aircraft carrier [HMS POW] was put through sea trials in October 2019 in the Moray Firth and the North Sea which included tests of its long-range radar – tracking two Typhoon jets that were flown out of RAF Lossiemouth.

The second of the QE Class Aircraft carriers has been undertaking the sea trials since she left Rosyth.

p.s. I wonder how permanent are those big Q/P letters on the decks going to be ?

noth · by **noth** » 16 Nov 2019, 17:54

marsavian wrote:QE class fun facts

https://www.forces.net/services/navy/we ... heir-glory
https://www.forces.net/services/navy/we ... -her-glory

The aircraft carrier [HMS POW] was put through sea trials in October 2019 in the Moray Firth and the North Sea which included tests of its long-range radar – tracking two Typhoon jets that were flown out of RAF Lossiemouth.

The second of the QE Class Aircraft carriers has been undertaking the sea trials since she left Rosyth.

p.s. I wonder how permanent are those big Q/P letters on the decks going to be ?

Presumably as permanent as the numbers painted on the front of the US carriers are, maybe a bit more because they're not exposed to much jet exhaust.

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 16 Nov 2019, 20:59

From the air in a fast moving jet how does one tell the Peees & Quuues apart? BIG LETTERS on STERN FLIGHT DECK!

Pennant number
"Deck codes
Aircraft carriers and vessels operating aircraft have a deck code painted on the flight deck to aid identification by aircraft attempting to land. This is in a position clearly visible on the approach path. The Royal Navy uses a single letter (typically the first letter of the ship's name) for aircraft carriers and large vessels operating aircraft, and pairs of letters (usually letters from the ship's name) for smaller vessels. The United States Navy, with its larger fleet, uses the numeric part of the hull classification number (a system analogous to pennant numbers). Deck codes used by contemporary major British naval warships include:
HMS Albion — AN
HMS Bulwark — BK
HMS Dauntless — DT
HMS Ocean — O
HMS Queen Elizabeth — Q
HMS Price of Wales — P [seriously?]
RFA Argus — AS
RFA Lyme Bay — YB
RFA Cardigan Bay — CB
RFA Mounts Bay — MB

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennant_number