UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Corsair1963 · by **Corsair1963** » 10 Oct 2019, 05:03

weasel1962 wrote:I'm guessing USS Albany.

Why guessing???

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 10 Oct 2019, 09:24

03 Oct 2019 RN ASW: https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/royal- ... rine-edge/

marsavian · by **marsavian** » 10 Oct 2019, 11:57

weasel1962 wrote:I'm guessing USS Albany.

It could be the USS Albany (SSN-753) as the submarine is of the 688i later design of the Los Angeles class

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 12 Oct 2019, 00:00

Badge Image via e-mail: "Three F-35Bs each from 17 (Edwards) and 617 (Marham) Squadrons."

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 12 Oct 2019, 20:56

QE now at sea (via e-mail) 12 Oct 2019. ASLO (ues verginny) the graphic of QE position your afternoon time EST.

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 13 Oct 2019, 19:33

Photo essay: First British jets land onboard HMS Queen Elizabeth – Westlant 19 deployment – Part 3
13 Oct 2019 SaveTheRoyalNavy

"This afternoon the first British-owned jets landed on HMS Queen Elizabeth off the eastern coast of the US. These are the photos that have been released by the MoD so far, more details to follow.

These trials are aimed at ‘end-to-end’ testing of the aircraft and personnel to ensure the aircraft are compatible with the carrier. The tests will involve mission planning, arming the aircraft using the ship’s Highly Automated Weapon Handling System, flying missions and debriefing on completion.

Photo: "An all-British affair. It is interesting to note the aircraft handlers appear to be entirely RN. During 2018 USMC personnel assisted with the first landings." https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/wp-con ... 9/10/8.jpg

Source: https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/photo- ... 19-part-3/

zerion · by **zerion** » 13 Oct 2019, 23:35

More pics via the Twitterz

white_lightning35 · by **white_lightning35** » 14 Oct 2019, 00:51

Excellent pictures :cheers:

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 14 Oct 2019, 04:23

13 Oct 2019 MoD Press Release: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/firs ... -elizabeth

Pictured: F-35 Lightning jets take off and land on HMS Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier for the first time as the supersonic stealth planes conduct operational trials off the East Coast of the USA
14 Oct 2019 William Cole

"...First to land onboard, Wing Commander Adam Curd, Royal Air Force, said: 'The trials will be led by the joint Royal Navy - Royal Air Force 17 Test and Evaluation Squadron from the Air Warfare Centre. The Squadron will be operating alongside personnel and aircraft from the UK Lightning Force, based out of RAF Marham.'

The UK will declare Initial Operating Capability for Carrier Strike by the end of 2020. The first operational deployment for HMS Queen Elizabeth 617 Squadron and a squadron of US Marine Corps Lightning jets is due to take place in 2021...."

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rials.html

noth · by **noth** » 14 Oct 2019, 07:25

Presumably this series of tests will evaluate whether the SRVL manoeuver can be used by regular squadrons? It'll be interesting to see it undertaken on a crowded deck, now that there's more than 2 planes on board.

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 14 Oct 2019, 13:47

Had a go at amending the badge (or maybe some kind of 'challenge coin' - US usage I don't get at all but one never knows).

steve2267 · by **steve2267** » 14 Oct 2019, 15:32

spazsinbad wrote:Had a go at amending the badge (or maybe some kind of 'challenge coin' - US usage I don't get at all but one never knows).

Aren't the Brits borrowing two-three USMC F-35B's? If so, that might explain the "US usage" -- or just the fact that it is "mostly" a US aircraft?

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 14 Oct 2019, 19:29

There is a misunderstanding. I was referring to 'challenge coin US usage' which I do not understand. I was guessing that perhaps the original image was of a metal shiny with shadows challenge coin and NOT just a metal badge. DUNNO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenge_coin

outlaw162 · by **outlaw162** » 14 Oct 2019, 20:16

If I understand correctly what you don't understand....a 'challenge coin' is best carried with you at all times, lest you don't have it with you at the bar....and then must buy a round of beverages. Started in the 90s I think.

(I still have my US Marshal 727 'challenge coin' with an image of the 727 and the words, "If you're not indicted, you're not invited". :mrgreen:

)

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 14 Oct 2019, 20:18

Heheh. I challenge you to challenge me that I don't understand the usage of 'challenge coins'. But you make sense in your world of 'challenges'. In my former world challenge 'Dead ANTS!' & everyone had to hit the floor with arms & legs in air.

Best film clip I have ever seen simulating this is CLYDE in 'Every Which Way but Loose' simulating being shot by Eastwood.

Every which way but loose [Clyde does not put his arms & legs up] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DS3nd8Nrcw