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Unread post21 Jun 2018, 03:35

They should put it all on DVD.
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Unread post21 Jun 2018, 03:50

rheonomic wrote:I don't know if this is the right thread to post this or not, but there's going to be a special track at the AIAA AVIATION conference next week on the F-35 design: F-35 Lightning II – From Concept to Cockpit

I believe each talk has a corresponding paper.

The F-35 is the most advanced fighter aircraft ever built. With stealth technology, advanced sensors, weapons capacity and range, the F-35 is the most lethal, survivable and connected fighter aircraft flying in the skies today.

For the first time ever, the F-35 Lightning II – From Concept to Cockpit speaker series, held at AIAA AVIATION FORUM, will provide a comprehensive, behind-the-scenes look at the government and industry effort to deliver the F-35’s transformational capabilities to men and women in uniform.

With 18 papers, presentations, videos and more, the team will tell the entire story behind what it took to design, develop, demonstrate, test and deliver the F-35.

Fantastic. Thanks for this. Looks like I'll have to spend some money on papers (PDFs).
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Unread post26 Jun 2018, 07:27

"Tune in LIVE at 8 AM ET on June 26 as Skunk Works lead Jeff Babione gives a behind-the-scenes look at @thef35 during the @aiaa Forum: https://lmt.co/2trSdzC 24 Jun 2018 "

https://twitter.com/LockheedMartin/stat ... 2Fin-depth

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Unread post26 Jun 2018, 18:17

spazsinbad wrote:
"Tune in LIVE at 8 AM ET on June 26 as Skunk Works lead Jeff Babione gives a behind-the-scenes look at @thef35 during the @aiaa Forum: https://lmt.co/2trSdzC 24 Jun 2018 "

That was a good one. Babione for one hour, then panel for two.

JPO FMS lead said in the panel that all parts are owned by the US Government until they reach the hands of partners or FMS customers.

There was an appearance that almost everything came down to cost-effectiveness. Whether your company was included in the program supply chain, in that spare part setup...

https://twitter.com/aiaa/status/1011585173174083584

https://twitter.com/TheWoracle/status/1 ... 0188044288
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Unread post26 Jun 2018, 18:41

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Unread post26 Jun 2018, 19:59

@47:40 - New DAS unit = 5x the resolution! :drool:

I'll upload the videos to YT when I get home.
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Unread post26 Jun 2018, 23:13

That explains double the range. Damn.
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Unread post27 Jun 2018, 02:22

AIAA Aviation 2018 (Day 1)
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AIAA Aviation 2018 (Day 2)
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At the 20:10 mark:
  • A/C share the same engine
  • OFP is the same across all aircraft - it detects what version it is in
  • 2/3rds of LRUs are the same across all versions.
  • Global parts pool saves 30% in costs

At the 23:00 mark:
  • Air Superiority was planned from the beginning

At the 26:20 mark:
  • Most powerful fighter radar

At the 39:30 mark:
  • Final Test Program numbers
  • 9,200+ Test Flights
  • 65,000 Test Points
  • 183 Weapon Separation Tests
  • 46 Weapon Accuracy Tests
  • 33 Mission Effectiveness Tests
  • 140,000+ Flight Hours so far (Program Wide)

At the 43:10 mark:
  • $80mil Flyaway by 2020
  • 150 F-35s in 2020

At the 47:32 mark:
  • Over the next 10 years {Block 4+} there are 60 new hardware & software capabilities
  • New EODAS unit has 5x the resolution of Gen1 EODAS {at 55% of the cost & 5x reliability}
  • Auto-GCAS coming {before 2020}



The best info will be in the breakout sessions. Unfortunately, they will not be streamed.

The rest of the week's streams do not relate to the F-35 or LM.
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Unread post27 Jun 2018, 02:34

:applause: Thanks a bunch 'SWP'! :thanks:
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Unread post27 Jun 2018, 06:39

sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:That explains double the range. Damn.


It sure does which is really amazing since DAS is already has very unique capabilities that pretty much nobody else has. This upgrade might allow some totally new things to be done by the system. If nothing else, it will gather even more information as the system will cover eight times the air space (volume) than before... :shock:
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Unread post27 Jun 2018, 14:50

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sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:That explains double the range. Damn.


It sure does which is really amazing since DAS is already has very unique capabilities that pretty much nobody else has. This upgrade might allow some totally new things to be done by the system. If nothing else, it will gather even more information as the system will cover eight times the air space (volume) than before... :shock:

Can the computers process all that data effectively? It's insane. As far as I can tell DAS out ranges even dedicated IRST systems even in Gen I. The is going to be a LOT of tracks, Friendly, Enemy, and Neutral.
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Unread post27 Jun 2018, 15:37

Gen1 EODAS is only good in the WVR rangeband for fighter-sized objects, think 10 miles. CPU performance has more than outperformed a doubling in the last 20 years.
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Unread post27 Jun 2018, 16:12

SpudmanWP wrote:Gen1 EODAS is only good in the WVR rangeband for fighter-sized objects, think 10 miles.

Based on what source though? I would intrinsically believe that if it weren't for claims of detecting and tracking artillery, rockets, and AA at those kinds of ranges and the imagery shows that it still has terrain detail at that range. It tracked a Falcon 7 out to 800nm. There is a dubious claim it detected an AIM-120 launch at 1,200nm. Just based on it's ability to detect clouds out to deep double digit ranges tells me a fighter at those ranges should be a piece of cake. It becomes a question of what range does the heat from an aircraft saturate the pixel it is being viewed by. There is too much available footage indicating that this system is vastly more capable than we would otherwise believe.
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Unread post27 Jun 2018, 16:42

Based on what source though
That is all that has ever been claimed. Remember that this is being able to ID & track a fighter. AIMs & SAMs will obviously get picked up further out. TBMs will bet picked up even further out than that (bigger engine = hotter engine). Arty, rockets, etc are relatively easy due to it only needing to be a single point of IR light.

The 1200nmi AMRAAM track is BS for one simple reason, it is physically impossible. If the F-35 was at 40k feet then the AMRAAM would have to be at over 800k feet in order for it to get above the horizon at a range of 1200nmi (1380 miles).
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Unread post27 Jun 2018, 17:20

SpudmanWP wrote:That is all that has ever been claimed. Remember that this is being able to ID & track a fighter. AIMs & SAMs will obviously get picked up further out. TBMs will bet picked up even further out than that (bigger engine = hotter engine). Arty, rockets, etc are relatively easy due to it only needing to be a single point of IR light.

The 1200nmi AMRAAM track is BS for one simple reason, it is physically impossible. If the F-35 was at 40k feet then the AMRAAM would have to be at over 800k feet in order for it to get above the horizon at a range of 1200nmi (1380 miles).

I agree the AIM-120 quote is wrong, I assume by an order of magnitude at least. 120nm would be very impressive, even for just the launch plume, but it at least plausible.

Let me think here a moment. if a 200 pixel by 200 pixel array covers 90 degrees then each pixel covers a 0.45 degree swath of space. I'm not sure it works like that but it is what I have to go with. By 10nm that pixel is covering a 477x477ft space. A fighter fills a small portion of that, but it still illuminates the pixel due to its relative heat. Terrain and clouds and things may still be visible at longer ranges with less temperature difference due to sheer size, I suppose.

I guess I can accept 10nm against a mil power head on target, which would give something like 25-30nm against a retreating AB target. Hmm,
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