F-35 Lightning II vs Dassault Rafale

The F-35 compared with other modern jets.
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Unread post30 Dec 2019, 00:58

talkitron wrote:
ricnunes wrote:- To keep certain aerospace companies open in the fighter aircraft market (Boeing in the case of the Super Hornet and F-15, Dassault in the Rafale case and Airbus in the Typhoon case).


Statements of the US Navy are quite supportive of new Super Hornets. The Navy does not seem to be in love with F-35C. I do agree that jobs in St Louis and potential exports make this an easy political sell in Congress.



That is your opinion and not reflective of the USN Senior Leadership........ :?
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Unread post30 Dec 2019, 22:41

notkent wrote:
vilters wrote:@ rictunes

Put a cordon of snipers around their airbases.
If they can not hit huge tagets as airplanes at 3 miles?
Each sniper can take out at least 3-5 and recover to safety.
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Did not know that airbase commanders are that clueless. Once a single plane is taken out by a sniper they are just going to keep launching them?

And if you are talking about doing this in China how do the snipers get there in the first place and then just walk away to safety?



LOL, youve just been viltered. he specializes in non sense scenarios and hollywood tactics and passes them off as if theyre plausible. Hes actually promoted P-47s to beat ISIS and that a piper cub dropping hand grenades was impossible to shoot down.


I'm not making this up. you can check his post history in his profile and then do a search from there. Have popcorn
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Unread post30 Dec 2019, 22:45

talkitron wrote:Statements of the US Navy are quite supportive of new Super Hornets. The Navy does not seem to be in love with F-35C.



if you were around when the Tomcat retired they made it sound like all of Naval Avaition was on the verge of a mutiny :roll: :roll:

its the a simple matter of having all the Super Hornets already in the mix, vs the F-35 which is still getting squadrons set up. plus theyre trying to get rid of Block I Super Hornets. its a "Round Robin attrition" Block Is replaced with Block IIIs indirectly. Naval aircraft have high attrition thanks to the tougher lifestyles. The Navy's primary concern is keeping its carriers well stocked and theyre still working through all the big level maintaince issues and the big bucks theyre spending to get the mission capability rates up.

If you have a fleet of 600 some odd Super Hornets you are endlessly juggling and someone offers you more Super Hornets, youll gladly take it.
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Unread post30 Dec 2019, 23:57

Many see the low numbers of F-35C and jump to all of the wrong conclusions. The low rate is really tied to two things. First, the USN wanted a fully capable aircraft (blk 4+). So, it wouldn't have to waste time and money to upgrade them later. Second, much of the USN Budget is tied up with New Ship Construction. (Arliegh Burke Flight III, Ford Class Aircraft Carriers, Virginia SSN's, New SSBN, FFG-(X), etc. etc. etc.)


Then to add to that Congress has been making many additional demands. Which, is putting pressure on the Navy Budget. Including Maintenance and Service Issues....

Honestly, the budget pressure is enormous at the moment.

This is why the USN proposed retiring the USS HARRY S. TRUMAN over the summer. While, recently suggesting similar cuts to Aegis Cruisers and Destroyers! Not because they want to or even believe the US Congress would approve them. Just to get their attention!
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Unread post02 Jan 2020, 07:32

vilters wrote:Put a cordon of snipers around their airbases.
If they can not hit huge tagets as airplanes at 3 miles?
Each sniper can take out at least 3-5 and recover to safety.


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Unread post02 Jan 2020, 08:36

“First, the USN wanted a fully capable aircraft (blk 4+). So, it wouldn't have to waste time and money to upgrade them later.“

Well giddyup cowboy. Let’s just wait til Block 6 and buy some more Block III SHs instead.

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Unread post02 Jan 2020, 10:56

Australia also was expecting maritime block 4 in their F-35a 2012 procurement
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Unread post09 Jan 2020, 15:03

XanderCrews wrote:

LOL, youve just been viltered. he specializes in non sense scenarios and hollywood tactics and passes them off as if theyre plausible. Hes actually promoted P-47s to beat ISIS and that a piper cub dropping hand grenades was impossible to shoot down.


I'm not making this up. you can check his post history in his profile and then do a search from there. Have popcorn


I did not even get dinner and a movie. I feel used.
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