C-130 down near Savannah airport
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https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/05/02/us/mil ... index.html
Video looks like aircraft departed controlled flight and entered a spin very low to the ground. Hard to believe airplane would have stalled at a nose low AoA like that. Likely whatever caused this accident occurred outside of the frame.
No way this was survivable. Horrific.
Nickel in the grass...
Video looks like aircraft departed controlled flight and entered a spin very low to the ground. Hard to believe airplane would have stalled at a nose low AoA like that. Likely whatever caused this accident occurred outside of the frame.
No way this was survivable. Horrific.
Nickel in the grass...
It was apparent from the first photos of the wreckage that nobody made it out. What a mess.
I'm interested to learn what happened, especially with an eye towards preventing it.
I'm interested to learn what happened, especially with an eye towards preventing it.
I'm a mining engineer. How the hell did I wind up here?
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RIP. Hits home, was a LM on Herks for 9+ years.
Tragic. And at the same time strange, to me. They must of had some thing(s) go bad fast (multi-engine rollback?).
Not a pilot, but if I recall, Herks power-on stall left wing down, worse with flaps. Power-off stall buffets but stays relatively wings level. Just what the old brain recollects as a loadmaster, maybe from FCF sorties/briefings.
Anyway, they were heading to the bone yard, so the plane must of been relatively light, no cargo, mostly gutted of equipment- maybe 125K (90K op. weight + 35K fuel)? Again, not a pilot or FE, but we practiced three-engine take offs. Pucker factor for sure, even if the "failed" engine is only at flight idle, but the Herk can do it.
If they lost an engine at, or right after, go speed, getting away from the ground was successful. Can't tell from the video if they had one feathered. What happened that they couldn't just "raise the dead" and land that plane??
Sorry for the ranting of a long time lurker...just near and dear to my heart. :/
Here's a "simulated" 3-engine take off. This one doesn't seem simulated, #1 dies prior to rotation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSAB0XKUjLY
Tragic. And at the same time strange, to me. They must of had some thing(s) go bad fast (multi-engine rollback?).
Not a pilot, but if I recall, Herks power-on stall left wing down, worse with flaps. Power-off stall buffets but stays relatively wings level. Just what the old brain recollects as a loadmaster, maybe from FCF sorties/briefings.
Anyway, they were heading to the bone yard, so the plane must of been relatively light, no cargo, mostly gutted of equipment- maybe 125K (90K op. weight + 35K fuel)? Again, not a pilot or FE, but we practiced three-engine take offs. Pucker factor for sure, even if the "failed" engine is only at flight idle, but the Herk can do it.
If they lost an engine at, or right after, go speed, getting away from the ground was successful. Can't tell from the video if they had one feathered. What happened that they couldn't just "raise the dead" and land that plane??
Sorry for the ranting of a long time lurker...just near and dear to my heart. :/
Here's a "simulated" 3-engine take off. This one doesn't seem simulated, #1 dies prior to rotation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSAB0XKUjLY
xtalonlm wrote:If they lost an engine at, or right after, go speed, getting away from the ground was successful. Can't tell from the video if they had one feathered. What happened that they couldn't just "raise the dead" and land that plane??
The number of fatal accidents caused by feathering the wrong prop is definitely non-zero. It happens under stress.
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vilters wrote:R.I.P¨. all concerned.
No clue what happened before, or what triggered the event, but the end is a stall/spin accident.
"No clue what happened" is where you should have stopped typing.
In the future, when you decide you want to speculate in public, here's some advice: STFU.
huggy wrote:vilters wrote:R.I.P¨. all concerned.
No clue what happened before, or what triggered the event, but the end is a stall/spin accident.
"No clue what happened" is where you should have stopped typing.
In the future, when you decide you want to speculate in public, here's some advice: STFU.
I'm not sure how saying that you have no clue what happened is anything other than avoiding speculation...
November 9, 2018 (by Asif Shamim) - Air Mobility Command released the results of its investigation into the WC-130H Hercules crash near Savannah/Hilton Head International Airport, Savannah, Georgia, May 2, that killed all nine Airmen on board
https://media.defense.gov/2018/Nov/09/2 ... ORT.PDF%20
https://media.defense.gov/2018/Nov/09/2 ... ORT.PDF%20
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