Tubitak releases first air defence railgun prototype: Sapan

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by airforces_freak » 28 Oct 2016, 13:22

The Turkish Minister of Science, Industry and Technology introduces Turkey's first Air Defense Railgun prototype named the Sapan which he says has been tested since 2014. It is reported that the kinetic energy projectiles travel at 10 times the speed of sound and has been successful in all trials.

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http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/iste-tsknin- ... n-40261392


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by sferrin » 28 Oct 2016, 22:07

I'm reminded of Iran's new stealth fighter. You know the one.
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by XanderCrews » 29 Oct 2016, 03:17

"Successful in all trials"

Wow you would think they would be in a hurry to demonstrate it to the world

Where do I find the footage?
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by madrat » 29 Oct 2016, 05:06

Zero : Zero ratio attempts to success is equal to 1.00 aka perfect


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by mrigdon » 29 Oct 2016, 06:26

Would it be impolite to say that Turkey may be feeding us bologna? :lmao:


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by airforces_freak » 29 Oct 2016, 10:43

lol @ the comments on here.

FYI those that attended the Arms fair (it included foreigners) could see the video of the Tubitak Saban in action.

Turkish minister unveils first domestically produced 'Railgun'
DAILY SABAH, ISTANBUL
http://www.dailysabah.com/defense/2016/ ... ed-railgun
As the Turkish defense industry continues to pioneer new developments in its bid for independent domestic production, Turkey's Minister of Science, Industry and Technology Faruk Özlü has revealed photos of the state's first domestically produced railgun, developed by the state-run Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey (TÜBİTAK).

The railgun, named SAPAN, which literally means "sling" in Turkish, is the country's first domestically engineered electromagnetic weapon. According to Turkish media outlets, the weapon uses electromagnetic currents rather than explosives or propellants made with gunpowder, enabling projectiles to be fired from the railgun at speeds much higher than those of conventional weaponry. The new weapon, which was first tested in 2014, will enable Turkey to compete with U.S-based and U.K.-based defense companies, the only two countries in the world which develop railguns, according to Turkish media sources.

The ruling Justice and Development Party (AK Party) and President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan are champions for the "national and domestic" initiative launched by the defense industry. The development comes on the heels of a speech by President Erdoğan who pointed out that, in the past, Turkey was not even capable of "producing a simple rifle," but now has the capacity to develop its own warships, saying: "We also have armed drones now. This is a major accomplishment. Despite being a strategic ally of the U.S., our purchases of armed drones from the U.S. were met with obstruction by U.S. Congress for drone acquisition and led us to purchase drones from Israel [the last time], which presented problems in terms of drone repair in the case of malfunction," he noted.


Second English Source: http://en.trend.az/world/turkey/2678633.html


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by zerion » 29 Oct 2016, 19:06

It looks like something a couple engineering students cooked up.



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by arian » 29 Oct 2016, 20:01

This guy is a funny troll. This is basically no more advanced than a tech demonstrator build by any number of universities. Look at the picture of the thing on the test line: the target is literally 3m away.

From a tech demonstrator of a very basic scientific concept...we get "air defense" and "mach 10". :roll:

What a dumb troll.


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by airforces_freak » 30 Oct 2016, 00:32

TUBITAK-SAGE is not a University but rather Turkey's largest Research institute which has co-developed high-tech products even used by US Defence companies; including but not limited to Exelis ( [url]http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150505005935/en/Exelis-TÜBİTAK-SAGE-collaborate-development-smart-release[/url] and Lockheed Martin ( http://www.sage.tubitak.gov.tr/en/haber/som-j-cooperation-agreement-lockheed-martin ). Do you think Tubitak will jeopardise its international reputation through falsehoods?

Railgun technology has been researched for sometime now. In fact the Yugoslav Military Technology Institute developed a railgun with 7 kJ kinetic energy back in 1985 (Project EDO-0).

The Tubitak Sapan is a 14 MJ prototype railgun which Turkey intends to further develop and eventually use on it's Tf-2000 class AAW Frigate/Destroyers intended to be commissioned 2023 onwards. https://www.dzkk.tsk.tr/icerik.php?dil=0&icerik_id=76

TUBITAK has been conducting extensive research into Inertial confinement fusion technology and the Railgun is merely a by-product of that research. It announced such research at the 13th International Conference on Emerging Nuclear Energy Systems June 03-08,2007, Istanbul, Turkey. Such research is also reported by the International Atomic Energy Agency Repository (Registration number; RN:38117143).

I don't understand why this comes as a shock to many on this forum.


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by zerion » 30 Oct 2016, 01:41

airforces_freak wrote:TUBITAK-SAGE is not a University but rather Turkey's largest Research institute which has co-developed high-tech products even used by US Defence companies; including but not limited to Exelis ( [url]http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150505005935/en/Exelis-TÜBİTAK-SAGE-collaborate-development-smart-release[/url] and Lockheed Martin ( http://www.sage.tubitak.gov.tr/en/haber/som-j-cooperation-agreement-lockheed-martin ). Do you think Tubitak will jeopardise its international reputation through falsehoods?

Railgun technology has been researched for sometime now. In fact the Yugoslav Military Technology Institute developed a railgun with 7 kJ kinetic energy back in 1985 (Project EDO-0).

The Tubitak Sapan is a 14 MJ prototype railgun which Turkey intends to further develop and eventually use on it's Tf-2000 class AAW Frigate/Destroyers intended to be commissioned 2023 onwards. https://www.dzkk.tsk.tr/icerik.php?dil=0&icerik_id=76

TUBITAK has been conducting extensive research into Inertial confinement fusion technology and the Railgun is merely a by-product of that research. It announced such research at the 13th International Conference on Emerging Nuclear Energy Systems June 03-08,2007, Istanbul, Turkey. Such research is also reported by the International Atomic Energy Agency Repository (Registration number; RN:38117143).

I don't understand why this comes as a shock to many on this forum.


Calm down guys it was a joke. :wink:


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by arian » 30 Oct 2016, 01:50

zerion wrote:Calm down guys it was a joke. :wink:


I hope for his sake it's a joke. Otherwise, he is dumber then I thought. And I thought he was pretty dumb to begin with.

We can see the weapon firing on that target 3m away. To put it mildly, that is not a "14MJ" weapon :roll: Dumb troll seems to confuse himself every day by confusing dreams and fantasies of what they want to build, with university-level tech demonstrators.

Still, not as funny as his Mach 7 ramjet technology the Turks have "developed", and showing a video of a test demonstrating that Turkey has just discovered 1940s level of ramjet technology in a lab setting.

Still a ways to catch up to Iran's amazing technology, however.


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by airforces_freak » 31 Oct 2016, 03:10

China Topix, 9:37 PM EDT, SUN, OCT 30, 2016

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Turkey Unveils Prototype Electromagnetic Railgun for New Navy Destroyers
By Arthur Dominic Villasanta | Oct 30, 2016 06:07 PM EDT0 Off the rails
A prototype of SAPAN, Turkey's first railgun.(Photo : Ministry of Science, Industry and Technology)

Turkey has released the first photos of its new electromagnetic railgun that will arm the Turkish Navy's TF-2000-class anti-air warfare frigates currently undergoing development by the Turkish Naval Institute.

The EM railgun named "TÜBITAK SAPAN" is a 14 megajoule (MJ) weapon using technology similar to that of railguns produced by the U.S. Navy. Military railguns rely on electromagnetic forces to generate very high kinetic energies that fire specially-made projectiles towards targets at speeds of up to 3,500 meters per second.

Tübitak Sapan is Turkey's first domestically engineered railgun. The word "sapan" is Turkish for sling. "Tübitak," is an acronym for the state-run "Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey." It's a national agency whose goal is to conduct research, technology and development studies in line with "national priorities."

Tübitak has been conducting extensive research into inertial confinement fusion technology over the past decade and the Sapan railgun is merely a by-product of that research.

Tübitak also develops "science, technology and innovation" policies; support and conduct research and development, and to "play a leading role in the creation of a science and technology culture" in Turkey.

Turkish media said Sapan uses electromagnetic currents rather than high explosives to fire projectiles at speeds much higher than those of conventional weaponry.

Sapan, which was first tested in 2014, will allow Turkey to compete with U.S-based and U.K.-based defense companies, the only two countries in the world that develop railguns, claims Turkish media.

Photos of the new railgun's prototype were made public by Faruk Özlü, Minister of Science, Industry and Technology.

The Turkish Navy's TF-2000 class frigate will provide survivability against modern aerial threats and also support combat functions such as command, control and communications, reconnaissance, early warning, surface warfare, anti-submarine warfare and electronic warfare.

The navy plans to build eight of these warships, all of which will be armed with full-scale, combat-ready versions of Sapan.


Read more: http://www.chinatopix.com/articles/1049 ... z4OcnA8hSF


The Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM) initiated the TF-2000 Program to meet the Anti-Air Warfare Frigate requirement of Turkish Naval Forces Command. In this regard, Request for Information (RFI) was issued 15 January 2010 by SSM to gather administrative, financial and technical information for the systems from relevant companies/organizations for planning purposes of the Program.

Directed Infrared Counter Measures
Electric Generation and Distribution Systems
Heating Ventilating Air Conditioning (HVAC)
Integrated Platform Management System
Laser Directed / Kinetic Energy Weapons
Main Propulsion System
Naval Gun System

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... f-2000.htm


N.B. The publicly released photo's are not the actual prototype but rather a technology demonstrator of one component of the railgun. The system consists of a large unit which contains extremely heavy coils and a seperate electricity supply unit. We should see more of this in future as the Tf-2000 program develops.

Some Tf-2000 Frigate/Destroyer designs of STM
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by arian » 31 Oct 2016, 09:02

N.B. The publicly released photo's are not the actual prototype but rather a technology demonstrator of one component of the railgun.


No s**t, mouth breather. What have we been telling you? :doh:

You're confusing your dreams and fantasies of what you want it to be, with what it actually is. Come back in 20 years when you'r junk companies have progressed beyond the university testbed stage.

Your sources for your trash trolling are astounding: Sputink, some Turkish rags, Chinatopix. You should comment on Youtube, not here.


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by mrigdon » 31 Oct 2016, 09:13

airforces_freak wrote:N.B. The publicly released photo's are not the actual prototype but rather a technology demonstrator of one component of the railgun.


So they've demonstrated the case that would hold a theoretical rail gun. Check.


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by airforces_freak » 31 Oct 2016, 11:20

arian wrote:
N.B. The publicly released photo's are not the actual prototype but rather a technology demonstrator of one component of the railgun.


No s**t, mouth breather. What have we been telling you? :doh:

You're confusing your dreams and fantasies of what you want it to be, with what it actually is. Come back in 20 years when you'r junk companies have progressed beyond the university testbed stage.

Your sources for your trash trolling are astounding: Sputink, some Turkish rags, Chinatopix. You should comment on Youtube, not here.


At least I provide sources for what I post here Arian. Your bias and hostility towards Turks on this forum is no secret. Keep repeating that everything I post is a lie if it makes you feel better. You are merely just another individual that suffers from cognitive dissonece and needs to be ignored.


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