EF Typhoon, Enhanced Maneuverability

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Unread post21 Jul 2015, 16:06

Not too much of a "new" news but interesting. It looks like there are options to increase the Tiffy's already incredible performance.

http://fightersweep.com/2708/eurofighte ... s-upgrade/

One of NATO’s best tactical aircraft has gotten a large boost in performance, thanks to a new Aerodynamic Modification Kit (AMK) from Airbus Defense and Space.
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The modified Eurofighter Typhoon, a multi, or swing role aircraft already known for its excellent maneuverability all while carrying an impressive array of weapons, was flown from the company’s test facilities in Manching, Germany.

The enhancements involved the addition of leading edge root extensions, blending the area where the wing meets the fuselage, and enlarged strakes on the fuselage above the engine inlets.

While the modifications may not look like much, they resulted in a huge boost in the airplane’s aerodynamic performance and load-carrying capability.

The idea was to improve the Typhoon’s already stellar turn rate and radius, and the 36 sorties flown yielded impressive results, as Eurofighter Project Pilot Raffale Beltrame describes: “We saw angle of attack values around 45% greater than on the standard aircraft, and roll rates up to 100% higher, all leading to increased agility. The handling qualities appeared to be markedly improved, providing more maneuverability, agility and precision while performing tasks representative of in-service operations.”
A German Air Force Typhoon taxies in following a Red Flag-Alaska mission. The German Air Force is one of several nations which currently operate the Eurofighter solely in an air superiority role.

A German Air Force Typhoon taxies in following a Red Flag-Alaska mission. The German Air Force is one of several nations which currently operate the Eurofighter solely in an air superiority role.

Considering the already stunning performance of the aircraft, this upgrade unlocks even more of the Typhoon’s potential. And they’re not finished yet: the AMK is only one part of the Eurofighter Enhanced Maneuverability (EFEM) program, which is specifically designed to keep the Typhoon ahead of its competitors like Dassault’s Rafale.

The French offering has made huge strides recently after a long period of abysmal (meaning: none) export sales, with Egypt, Qatar, and India all placing orders for the twin-engine Rafale which features the same general configuration as Eurofighter’s Typhoon.

On the surface it seems like a little bit goes a long way in this instance, but since the price tag associated with the modifications has not been revealed, it’s tough to say whether or not the cost is worth the added capability that it offers. So far none of the countries that currently operate the Typhoon have taken the plunge and splurged on the agility upgrade for their current Eurofighter fleets.

Other upgrades in the works that may be even more beneficial as part of the EFEM include weapons systems and a new Captor E-Scan radar from BAE Systems. In addition to being a major upgrade for current operators, these upgrades will help position the Eurofighter in upcoming buys from countries like Finland, Belgium, and Bahrain, who are all looking to upgrade their fighter fleets in the coming years.
An RAF Typhoon ready to take the runway for a night mission during Red Flag

An RAF Typhoon ready to take the runway for a night mission during Red Flag

Just like all US-built aircraft, the Eurofighter will continue to be upgraded throughout its lifespan as a tactical aircraft.Both the Royal Air Force and German Air Force have brought their Typhoons over to the US for Red Flag exercises recently, as the swing-role fighter continues to mature as a deadly weapons system and integrates with various NATO and partner nations. With deliveries of the modern European fighter still continuing, the story of the Typhoon has many chapters yet to be written.


I'm quite surprised that the Europeans were heading a "EFEM" (Eurofighter enhamnced maneuverability) program. According to Bill Sweetman (took it with a grain of salt)
the American's, Europeans and Russians had varrying views on how air combat will play out.

The Russians think that it may involve a lot of WVR, slow speed, post stall, turning fights in a phone booth.
The Americans beleive that it will be a game of hide and seek, first look, first shot, first kill, similar to submarine warfare.
The Europeans are convinced it will involve a lot of BVR long range shots at stand off ranges.

Which is why i'm curious on why the EU guys are investing on enhanced maneuverability for an aircraft that is already incredibly maneuverable.

Also read somwhere that MBDA's research concluded that future air warfare may include a lot of BVR turning fights at high speed
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Unread post21 Jul 2015, 17:02

zero-one wrote:The Russians think that it may involve a lot of WVR, slow speed, post stall, turning fights in a phone booth.
The Americans beleive that it will be a game of hide and seek, first look, first shot, first kill, similar to submarine warfare.
The Europeans are convinced it will involve a lot of BVR long range shots at stand off ranges.

Which is why i'm curious on why the EU guys are investing on enhanced maneuverability for an aircraft that is already incredibly maneuverable.



Well do they really think it is like that? - you would expect them to have similar views - but also be bound by the capabilities they actually have.

How many orders are there for this new kit?
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Unread post21 Jul 2015, 17:12

Let's see if anyone actually shells out the cash to acquire the enhanced performance. A nice brochure feature until that happens. Upgrades to the radar and weapons systems may actually be more beneficial as the article notes.
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Unread post21 Jul 2015, 17:44

popcorn wrote:Let's see if anyone actually shells out the cash to acquire the enhanced performance. A nice brochure feature until that happens. Upgrades to the radar and weapons systems may actually be more benedicial as the article notes.



Agree 100%. To me this looks more like many of the various U.S. projects that added agility to the F-15 and F-16 at times. But none ever got bought. No one will shell out money for this when current production models don't even have an AESA radar in them yet. As far as I can tell there is a development contract but no broad agreement to deploy the thing yet. It still needs new weapons as well for air to ground. Honestly I would be half tempted as a national partner to tell them to knock this off and spend whatever cash they did on this getting those things right first.
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Unread post21 Jul 2015, 17:54

"... huge boost in the airplane’s... load-carrying capability...." looks to be a good effect - apart from other aero effects?
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Unread post21 Jul 2015, 18:11

Well, they had to come up with somèthing positive in light of Rafale's recent sales success. Maybe their PR ambition is to wrest the "best dogfighter" title from the Raptor? Or win "best in airshow"? :D
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Unread post21 Jul 2015, 18:15

Here is the test aircraft with the new leading edge root extensions. I have put two different version of the old leading edge root, so there seem to be at least two other versions out there. One here seem to have a navigation light, or perhaps a spotlight for aircraft identification, while others I have seen looks like a antenna pod of some sort.
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Unread post22 Jul 2015, 16:04

popcorn wrote:Well, they had to come up with somèthing positive in light of Rafale's recent sales success. Maybe their PR ambition is to wrest the "best dogfighter" title from the Raptor? Or win "best in airshow"? :D


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Unread post22 Jul 2015, 19:03

zero-one wrote:Not too much of a "new" news but interesting. It looks like there are options to increase the Tiffy's already incredible performance.

http://fightersweep.com/2708/eurofighte ... s-upgrade/

One of NATO’s best tactical aircraft has gotten a large boost in performance, thanks to a new Aerodynamic Modification Kit (AMK) from Airbus Defense and Space.
Related Posts


The modified Eurofighter Typhoon, a multi, or swing role aircraft already known for its excellent maneuverability all while carrying an impressive array of weapons, was flown from the company’s test facilities in Manching, Germany.

The enhancements involved the addition of leading edge root extensions, blending the area where the wing meets the fuselage, and enlarged strakes on the fuselage above the engine inlets.

While the modifications may not look like much, they resulted in a huge boost in the airplane’s aerodynamic performance and load-carrying capability.

The idea was to improve the Typhoon’s already stellar turn rate and radius, and the 36 sorties flown yielded impressive results, as Eurofighter Project Pilot Raffale Beltrame describes: “We saw angle of attack values around 45% greater than on the standard aircraft, and roll rates up to 100% higher, all leading to increased agility. The handling qualities appeared to be markedly improved, providing more maneuverability, agility and precision while performing tasks representative of in-service operations.”
A German Air Force Typhoon taxies in following a Red Flag-Alaska mission. The German Air Force is one of several nations which currently operate the Eurofighter solely in an air superiority role.

A German Air Force Typhoon taxies in following a Red Flag-Alaska mission. The German Air Force is one of several nations which currently operate the Eurofighter solely in an air superiority role.

Considering the already stunning performance of the aircraft, this upgrade unlocks even more of the Typhoon’s potential. And they’re not finished yet: the AMK is only one part of the Eurofighter Enhanced Maneuverability (EFEM) program, which is specifically designed to keep the Typhoon ahead of its competitors like Dassault’s Rafale.

The French offering has made huge strides recently after a long period of abysmal (meaning: none) export sales, with Egypt, Qatar, and India all placing orders for the twin-engine Rafale which features the same general configuration as Eurofighter’s Typhoon.

On the surface it seems like a little bit goes a long way in this instance, but since the price tag associated with the modifications has not been revealed, it’s tough to say whether or not the cost is worth the added capability that it offers. So far none of the countries that currently operate the Typhoon have taken the plunge and splurged on the agility upgrade for their current Eurofighter fleets.

Other upgrades in the works that may be even more beneficial as part of the EFEM include weapons systems and a new Captor E-Scan radar from BAE Systems. In addition to being a major upgrade for current operators, these upgrades will help position the Eurofighter in upcoming buys from countries like Finland, Belgium, and Bahrain, who are all looking to upgrade their fighter fleets in the coming years.
An RAF Typhoon ready to take the runway for a night mission during Red Flag

An RAF Typhoon ready to take the runway for a night mission during Red Flag

Just like all US-built aircraft, the Eurofighter will continue to be upgraded throughout its lifespan as a tactical aircraft.Both the Royal Air Force and German Air Force have brought their Typhoons over to the US for Red Flag exercises recently, as the swing-role fighter continues to mature as a deadly weapons system and integrates with various NATO and partner nations. With deliveries of the modern European fighter still continuing, the story of the Typhoon has many chapters yet to be written.


I'm quite surprised that the Europeans were heading a "EFEM" (Eurofighter enhamnced maneuverability) program. According to Bill Sweetman (took it with a grain of salt)
the American's, Europeans and Russians had varrying views on how air combat will play out.

The Russians think that it may involve a lot of WVR, slow speed, post stall, turning fights in a phone booth.
The Americans beleive that it will be a game of hide and seek, first look, first shot, first kill, similar to submarine warfare.
The Europeans are convinced it will involve a lot of BVR long range shots at stand off ranges.

Which is why i'm curious on why the EU guys are investing on enhanced maneuverability for an aircraft that is already incredibly maneuverable.

Also read somwhere that MBDA's research concluded that future air warfare may include a lot of BVR turning fights at high speed
Considering the already stunning performance of the aircraft, this upgrade unlocks even more of the Typhoon’s potential. And they’re not finished yet: the AMK is only one part of the Eurofighter Enhanced Maneuverability (EFEM) program, which is specifically designed to keep the Typhoon ahead of its competitors like Dassault’s Rafale.
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Unread post22 Jul 2015, 19:05

wil59 wrote:
zero-one wrote:Not too much of a "new" news but interesting. It looks like there are options to increase the Tiffy's already incredible performance.

http://fightersweep.com/2708/eurofighte ... s-upgrade/

One of NATO’s best tactical aircraft has gotten a large boost in performance, thanks to a new Aerodynamic Modification Kit (AMK) from Airbus Defense and Space.
Related Posts


The modified Eurofighter Typhoon, a multi, or swing role aircraft already known for its excellent maneuverability all while carrying an impressive array of weapons, was flown from the company’s test facilities in Manching, Germany.

The enhancements involved the addition of leading edge root extensions, blending the area where the wing meets the fuselage, and enlarged strakes on the fuselage above the engine inlets.

While the modifications may not look like much, they resulted in a huge boost in the airplane’s aerodynamic performance and load-carrying capability.

The idea was to improve the Typhoon’s already stellar turn rate and radius, and the 36 sorties flown yielded impressive results, as Eurofighter Project Pilot Raffale Beltrame describes: “We saw angle of attack values around 45% greater than on the standard aircraft, and roll rates up to 100% higher, all leading to increased agility. The handling qualities appeared to be markedly improved, providing more maneuverability, agility and precision while performing tasks representative of in-service operations.”
A German Air Force Typhoon taxies in following a Red Flag-Alaska mission. The German Air Force is one of several nations which currently operate the Eurofighter solely in an air superiority role.

A German Air Force Typhoon taxies in following a Red Flag-Alaska mission. The German Air Force is one of several nations which currently operate the Eurofighter solely in an air superiority role.

Considering the already stunning performance of the aircraft, this upgrade unlocks even more of the Typhoon’s potential. And they’re not finished yet: the AMK is only one part of the Eurofighter Enhanced Maneuverability (EFEM) program, which is specifically designed to keep the Typhoon ahead of its competitors like Dassault’s Rafale.

The French offering has made huge strides recently after a long period of abysmal (meaning: none) export sales, with Egypt, Qatar, and India all placing orders for the twin-engine Rafale which features the same general configuration as Eurofighter’s Typhoon.

On the surface it seems like a little bit goes a long way in this instance, but since the price tag associated with the modifications has not been revealed, it’s tough to say whether or not the cost is worth the added capability that it offers. So far none of the countries that currently operate the Typhoon have taken the plunge and splurged on the agility upgrade for their current Eurofighter fleets.

Other upgrades in the works that may be even more beneficial as part of the EFEM include weapons systems and a new Captor E-Scan radar from BAE Systems. In addition to being a major upgrade for current operators, these upgrades will help position the Eurofighter in upcoming buys from countries like Finland, Belgium, and Bahrain, who are all looking to upgrade their fighter fleets in the coming years.
An RAF Typhoon ready to take the runway for a night mission during Red Flag

An RAF Typhoon ready to take the runway for a night mission during Red Flag

Just like all US-built aircraft, the Eurofighter will continue to be upgraded throughout its lifespan as a tactical aircraft.Both the Royal Air Force and German Air Force have brought their Typhoons over to the US for Red Flag exercises recently, as the swing-role fighter continues to mature as a deadly weapons system and integrates with various NATO and partner nations. With deliveries of the modern European fighter still continuing, the story of the Typhoon has many chapters yet to be written.


I'm quite surprised that the Europeans were heading a "EFEM" (Eurofighter enhamnced maneuverability) program. According to Bill Sweetman (took it with a grain of salt)
the American's, Europeans and Russians had varrying views on how air combat will play out.

The Russians think that it may involve a lot of WVR, slow speed, post stall, turning fights in a phone booth.
The Americans beleive that it will be a game of hide and seek, first look, first shot, first kill, similar to submarine warfare.
The Europeans are convinced it will involve a lot of BVR long range shots at stand off ranges.

Which is why i'm curious on why the EU guys are investing on enhanced maneuverability for an aircraft that is already incredibly maneuverable.

Also read somwhere that MBDA's research concluded that future air warfare may include a lot of BVR turning fights at high speed
Considering the already stunning performance of the aircraft, this upgrade unlocks even more of the Typhoon’s potential. And they’re not finished yet: the AMK is only one part of the Eurofighter Enhanced Maneuverability (EFEM) program, which is specifically designed to keep the Typhoon ahead of its competitors like Dassault’s Rafale.
what! Burst proved he had nothing to envy in English eurofigther.Les drivers want more faced the RAFALE since the 2009 Strike Level!.• During Exercise Joint Warrior 2013-1, rumors say SPECTRA literally gave headaches to Captor-M radar for the Eurofighter, preventing it from hanging Rafale, yet visible and detectable.
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Unread post23 Jul 2015, 12:58

zero-one wrote:I'm quite surprised that the Europeans were heading a "EFEM" (Eurofighter enhamnced maneuverability) program.

Today, EFs are (or about to) haul iron in some world shithole rather than fight Flankers, so AMk is here to deal with increased weight of large and frequent AG loads.

The Russians think that it may involve a lot of WVR, slow speed, post stall, turning fights in a phone booth.

Russians think much, most of it is garbage though...the thing is Russians can't compete in avionics and engines and they always try to bring fight close, where all bets are off.
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Unread post23 Jul 2015, 14:51

Between the PakFa and other procurments, they also have 16 new weapons on various test stage.
Upgrading 120 Mig-31 to stay in service way past 2030. Upgrading AWACS, new ELINT platforms, new A-100..

When reading stuff like Cola here States. .
The slogan; -"stupid is, what stupid says" is fitting.

And the heads in VVS are only too happy with western speculating such..
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Unread post23 Jul 2015, 17:27

borg wrote:When reading stuff like Cola here States. .
The slogan; -"stupid is, what stupid says" is fitting.

Oh, how nice and smart thing to say...you picked that kinderstube and wits on Krasnaya Ploshad? :D
On a serious note, have you ever been even close to actual Soviet/Russian equipment, or is the computer screen limit?
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Unread post23 Jul 2015, 21:19

More times that I can count.
But enough about me.
Surely you are not trying to side-step your incorrect and less than pro reflecting point about them Russians.. ;)

Just to make my point even more clear.
There will Come a new Su-35S deal signed at MAKS 2015.

Add 12 Su-27SM3, 16 Su-30M2, 61 Su-30SM and most likely a new 48 deal on Su-35S which makes 96 total.

And here it comes, only 34 Mig-29 SMT.

CLEARLY them Russians are aiming on WVR tactics, nothing on BVR.

I mean if one were to go for WVR, then bying HUGE HEAVY LONG LEGGED Flankers, which happens to sport the the best mission range out there, and more stations hardpoint that they even need.
All this only to sucker adversaries into the box.

Such a Great logic from you.
Pls do keep it up.
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Unread post23 Jul 2015, 21:29

borg wrote:More times that I can count.

No, you didn't...don't be ridiculous.
Brochure 'knowledge' doesn't count here.
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