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Unread post20 Sep 2018, 07:54

spazsinbad wrote:Heheh. He does get HET up - lookie this 'brungit' video for a quotable quote just posted by 'Corsair1963' in another thread.

Billy Flynn F-35 Top Speed [& Top Weight/Fuel/Arms] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_b6vCOLLz8




bring_it_on posted it to youtube first....he deserves all the credit.
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Unread post20 Sep 2018, 09:30

... “When you talk about the lethality of the strategic surface to air missiles that exist out there today, they’ll kill non-stealthy airplanes at dramatic ranges. I cannot believe…a commander will allow non stealthy airplanes in the battle space, because he’s not going to put guys at risk. You’re going to sit at the back of the line, the back of the bus if you don’t have an airplane with this kind of capability.” ...


He's ... he's not talking about Rafale or Gripen .. is he? :)
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Unread post20 Sep 2018, 10:05

Corsair1963 wrote:
spazsinbad wrote:Heheh. He does get HET up - lookie this 'brungit' video for a quotable quote just posted by 'Corsair1963' in another thread.

Billy Flynn F-35 Top Speed [& Top Weight/Fuel/Arms] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_b6vCOLLz8

bring_it_on posted it to youtube first....he deserves all the credit.

:shock: Aaahh you missed my 'brungit' wordplay joke for 'bring_it_on'. Oh well.... :roll:
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Unread post20 Sep 2018, 22:00

[b][/b]Happened across this quote in a different thread (viewtopic.php?p=213132#p213132). The original article does not appear to exist anymore.

Joint Strike Fighter may miss acceleration goal
By Dave Majumdar - Staff writer Posted : Wednesday Jan 18, 2012 19:07:16 EST

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U.S. Air Force Lt. Col. Eric Smith, director of operations at the 58th Fighter Squadron at Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., and F-35 test pilot, said that flying the aircraft is a thrilling experience.

I can’t even explain the adrenaline rush you get when you light the afterburner on that thing,” Smith said. “The acceleration is much better than an F-16.

<snip>

Original URL: http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/20 ... al-011812/
Take an F-16, stir in A-7, dollop of F-117, gob of F-22, dash of F/A-18, sprinkle with AV-8B, stir well + bake. Whaddya get? F-35.
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Unread post20 Sep 2018, 22:50

"The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."
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Unread post01 Oct 2018, 11:58

Words of col. Davide Marzinotto (32° Stormo Aeronautica Militare):

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"In an aerial combat we used to make considerations such as -i can pull it off-; -i'm rolling the dices here- ; -gotta be careful here- ; aboard a F35 i can't think of nothing but - sucks to be the guy on the other side"

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Unread post01 Oct 2018, 14:50

'nutshell' italiano translated googoo: https://translate.google.com.au/transla ... edit-text=
Revolution F35
01 Oct 2018 Andrea Cucco

"Amendola airport eloquently sums up the leap made by the Italian Air Force with the F35 ...

I'm at the bar to get the pass to access the base when suddenly a roar of reactors echoes in the air. After a few moments, behind the dated faded green buildings in front of the main entrance, they emerge cabrando and suddenly veering two pairs of F35 left. In rapid sequence!

The thought can not immediately avoid the comparison with the feeling that it felt when arriving at an Air Force base until a few decades ago: it was an armed force with in-line aircraft that in some films were remembered by grandparents and exhibited in museums aviation, like the F104.

For heaven's sake, over time successful aircraft, such as the G91, the Tornado, up to the dear Eurofighter, have alternated. The silhouettes that appear today in the sky are nevertheless futuristic: finally we have the most advanced aircraft (on the market), the only one from a generation to fly in hundreds of specimens! Over 300 on over 3000 under construction.

The Amendola base, which is about fifteen kilometers from Foggia, is by extension the second in Europe, preceded only by that of Ramstein, in Germany.

Structures with many years behind them alternate with brand new. As the first location designated to host the Lightning II is changing skin and in a few years, where before there were expanses of grass, now hang hangar and impressive buildings designed to house command centers, training, simulators.

The first appointment is with the protagonist of the base: the Joint Strike Fighter. It's the first time we see it so closely.

The commander of the 32nd Wing, Colonel Davide Marzinotto, has followed the program for years, in Italy and in the USA since the operational requirements of the machine have been defined. It is (symbolically) one of the officers with whom we have been waiting for years to speak, from which to have answers. Thanks to the new communication directives based on the transparency of the new Minister of Defense - finally - we can have a meeting.

Commander, the 32nd is the first departmental state to receive the F35. A result to highlight.
There are many events and elements to highlight; among these, the first transversal Atlantic carried out by a JSF assembled in Italy certainly deserves a mention: a confirmation of the excellent capacity and production quality of the FACO of Cameri. In confirmation of this I can tell you that many procedures of our assembly line have been taken as a model and "transplanted" in the USA, after having checked the quality of Italian manufacturing.

The aircraft is characterized by an operational polyfunctionality.
The history of military aviation has seen a development aimed at creating increasingly specialized aircraft. This happened due to technological limitations: speed with bombing, reconnaissance or other capabilities were not always compatible.

With the arrival of "multi-role" assets, the airplanes have become "reconfigurable" to satisfy different missions. However, all this did not occur at the same time. It happened on the ground and it cost time.

The revolution that represents the F-35 is due to its DNA "omnirole": the aircraft can perform multiple missions simultaneously, without needing to return to the base to be reconfigured.

Perhaps the value in all of this is not immediately comprehensible to all. I can assure you that this is something revolutionary.

Does this entail a high degree of specialization for pilots?
The machine allows you to train in all specialties.

Electronic war included?
Certainly.

How did this result come about?
Thanks to the systems technology. Let's think about the F104 . 80% of the pilot's work was directed to the operation of the aircraft, the residue to the sensors. Over time, the operating behavior of the fighters has evolved. With it the amount of information available, data must be filtered and valued according to the tactical situation.

The uniqueness of the F-35 derives from the immense ability to collect and process information, which, through on-board sensors and / or shared with other assets, allow to widen the horizon and assess threats in an impossible time even just to imagine. A little like facing a simple icon provided by the software of a telephone rather than the complex computer language below. We have more data, greater accuracy and reliability and above all it all happens in real time.

What is required by modern F-35 pilots?
The processing and management capacity of the systems with respect to the aircraft's ability to conduct is certainly more important. We are facing a generational change and new skills are required. After all, one notices this change already in the family when a child picks up a parent's cell phone ...

Computers, as was already the case with Eurofighter, have alleviated the processing capacity of the pilot, allowing better use.

Does the 5 - generation technology combine well in an environment of sometimes backward, sometimes outdated, assets?

It does so sometimes surprisingly: the sharing of information makes the F-35 a "multiplier". Let me explain: there are weapons systems that until recently were considered dated. Thanks to the system set up allowed by the sharing of the information of the new fighter, many assets have achieved a real second life.

All this computerization will make that cyber one of the main threats ...

Obviously, various levels of security and reliability of the links of the aircraft are set up. An aspect not even minimally neglected.

The development of the F-35 also met many unexpected events and delays ...
I would like the audience to understand a key aspect. In the past, the development of a weapon system was "sequential": requirements were formulated, it was passed to a project, to tests, to prototypes ...

The concept behind the development of the JSF program was that of "concurrency": it was necessary to realize thousands of aircraft, not hundreds. To do this it was necessary that the development of some components proceeded in parallel. Waiting for the completion of a phase like in the past would have delayed putting the aircraft online and therefore increasing costs.

Example of this, the aircraft software?
Exactly: the versions provided the ability to conduct and use the systems that progressively expanded and expanded. The software available today is the so-called "3i" (89% of the combat capacity, nda), soon the fleet can be updated to the "3f" standard simply by loading the new SW. The 3f upgrade will express the operational capabilities established by the project thus concluding the development phase.

Has the problem of the pilots' helmet (see Article ) been exceeded?
It is a limit condition linked to the ejection which, however, does not affect any pilot in service in the Armed Force. None of our pilots is even vaguely close to that extreme case, in terms of height and weight parameters.

In any case, a new helmet is being developed, the "GEN3-Light" which will also eliminate this limitation.

To conclude, can you describe the thrill of being at the controls of the most advanced fighter?
I piloted numerous aircraft, from AMX to Eurofighter. What immediately strikes is the simplicity of the conduct of the aircraft.

And then?
When you are in the air, you are impressed by the perception of the expanded awareness provided by the sensors: a world opens up and you are left speechless.

In an air confrontation at one time there were considerations like "Here me the cable ...", "Here I play it ..." or "Here I have to be careful".

On board an F-35 the thought can not be other than "Poor one who is on the other side !!!""

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Unread post31 Oct 2018, 10:24

LM Test Pilot Billie Flynn 'F-35C Best Wing' Airframe of Variants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OdiPeGz1HA

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Unread post23 Jan 2019, 21:43

Experience speaks:
An interesting exchange occurred in DCS forum between a former Tornado RIO and Tomcat pilot while everyone else was mired in the typical 1v1 circlejerk:
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Unread post25 Feb 2019, 03:39

Former F-35 pilot explains how the US Marine Corps' version makes China's 'carrier killer' missiles irrelevant
03 Feb 2018 Alex Lockie

[David Berke, a retired US Marine Corps lieutenant colonel]"...“The implications of a fifth-generation aeroplane being in [the Pacific] is impossible to overstate,” he added. “They’re going to provide capability that nobody knows exists yet.”"

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Unread post05 Mar 2019, 03:22

Mitchell Weighs In: More F-35s or New, Old F-15s?
04 Mar 2019 David Deptula & Doug Birkey

"... airmen who are actually flying the F-35 validate that it is already a fundamental game changer. As one F-35 pilot recently explained: “What was once nearly impossible has become commonplace with the advantages brought by fifth-generation aircraft like the F-35.”..."

Source: https://breakingdefense.com/2019/03/afa ... old-f-15s/
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Unread post05 Mar 2019, 04:35

From the same article Spaz just quoted:
As one F-35 pilot recently explained: “Five to eight years ago, we would plan an entire force package of [fourth-generation] aircraft, about 20-30 aircraft, all to maybe have a slim hope of taking down a modern surface-to-air threat—just one. Now, we train to accomplish the same mission with far greater certainty using just a few F-35s, while continuing to execute a host of other taskings.”
Take an F-16, stir in A-7, dollop of F-117, gob of F-22, dash of F/A-18, sprinkle with AV-8B, stir well + bake. Whaddya get? F-35.
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Unread post05 Mar 2019, 11:09

spazsinbad wrote:
Mitchell Weighs In: More F-35s or New, Old F-15s?
04 Mar 2019 David Deptula & Doug Birkey

"... airmen who are actually flying the F-35 validate that it is already a fundamental game changer. As one F-35 pilot recently explained: “What was once nearly impossible has become commonplace with the advantages brought by fifth-generation aircraft like the F-35.”..."

Source: https://breakingdefense.com/2019/03/afa ... old-f-15s/


Damn that's some extensive, heavy hitting analysis.
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Unread post05 Mar 2019, 11:33

'citanon' said: "Damn that's some extensive, heavy hitting analysis."
Lots more potential quotes in the entire 'F-35 BEST' article now made into a 14 page PDF for easy reading/archiving.
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Unread post05 Mar 2019, 22:11

Gonna boil down to LM lobby Vs Boeing lobby in Congress.
"When a fifth-generation fighter meets a fourth-generation fighter—the [latter] dies,”
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