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Unread post07 May 2019, 23:38

On the other hand, for the F-35 pilot that gets to a guns 1on1. They will be buying beers for a month if they live. For making multiple mistakes to get into that position. Especially if the mission planning didn't put a gun pod on the B and C. :doh:
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Unread post08 May 2019, 00:30

Depends on the type of training that is going on. BFM is a foundational skill for fighter guys. Each of the services have extensive training syllabi that do not end when one gets to one’s first fleet squadron. BFM remains a necessary part of those syllabi because it is a foundational skill — a building block if you will. Once one has completed sorties of a given type within the syllabus, there are refly intervals at which the training code needs to be refreshed. Mission emphasis by type (AA vs AG) will determine how much time is spent on any foundational skill.
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Unread post09 May 2019, 14:13

optimist wrote:On the other hand, for the F-35 pilot that gets to a guns 1on1. They will be buying beers for a month if they live. For making multiple mistakes to get into that position. Especially if the mission planning didn't put a gun pod on the B and C. :doh:


Either that, or he's going to be giving people lessons on how to best use the gun. It may be that something else necessitates the merge (other than his mistake). Like a weapons bay door that fails to close.

In that event, whatever WVR training they're getting is really going to pay off. It would also add another dimension to the F-35's capabilities, and assuming BVR works as advertised, it's mystique will only grow.
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Unread post09 May 2019, 14:28

The other important feature of BFM training is that even if you are only planning to enter BVR combat you still may need to take evasive actions against SAM/AAM heading your way. The ability to navigate and orientate quickly through 3D space is probably even more important and pressing there. I think LMT got the priority of F-35's maneuvering capabilities exactly right although the subtlety was lost on many at the beginning of its life. Concentrate mainly on Stealth/SA/Sensor Fusion yet build a slightly slower maneuvering version of the F-22 which should be more than adequate in the last resort if ACM is unavoidable.
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Unread post09 May 2019, 14:45

Procedure for F-35 B and C pilots for a Gun Shot.
- Press mike button
- Yell : Ra-Ta-Ta-Ta-Ta-Ta !

Enemy pisses pants and does a not so dry CFIT. :devil:

A Cowboy is no Cowboy without a Colt 45.

The F-35 B and C are like building a bomber without a bomb bay. :devil:
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Unread post09 May 2019, 14:48

The B/C gun pod is actually firing straighter and lasting longer at the moment ;)
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Unread post09 May 2019, 17:20

Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough about BFM training; you start there...a mile to a mile and a half apart (sometimes closer) from a variety of “canned” set-ups. Each set-up has a different learning objective, and specific criteria for termination of the set-up. There are also 1v0 sorties that are designed to maneuver to prescribed portions of the envelope — “aircraft handling” if-you-will.
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Unread post09 May 2019, 21:44

F-35 DEMO pilots Andrew “Dojo” Olson by person himself account comment.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BxAvNJ-laDr/
andyo_dojo Toronto, Ontario
135 degrees of turn, 50 degrees true angle of attack and the power to climb right out of the maneuver. Zero thrust vectoring, beast flight controls, full stealth, full send. Happy Friday in the Fast Jet Business!

(Rush to add.)
A cockpit view video was just posted! :D https://www.instagram.com/p/BxQgshXF6jN/
andyo_dojo Seymour Johnson Air Force Base, North Carolina
THIS is a first... cockpit video from the F-35! We’re going to be capturing epic footage all year that we can’t wait to share with you. Enjoy the ride while we take you on tour with us all airshow season.





And...
F-35 is flying at Israel Independence Day Airshow 2019.
@5:00~


@2:30~ (From @3:45~ it's a way to flight I've never seen. 8) (“I” have never seen it on F-35.))
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Unread post10 May 2019, 08:30

"...From @3:45~ it's a way to flight I've never seen..." PILOT WAVES BYE-BYE. Cockpit video will be great - thanks for link.
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Unread post11 May 2019, 19:35

"When a fifth-generation fighter meets a fourth-generation fighter—the [latter] dies,”
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