Patuxent River Ski Jump Video (No F-35Bs on it)

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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 00:48

'Dragon029' :notworthy: :mrgreen: Next QUESTION.... HOW DO YOU GET this material - first off the mark - BZ - I LIKE it!? :devil: :applause:
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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 00:59

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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 01:55

Nice find, I know Spaz and I had been frantically searching for pretty much whatever we could find for a few months now (he probably longer)..Interesting that they did this on the weekend, don't know about the Chesapeake Bay but we nearly had a Tornado touch down in Annapolis-Baltimore area on Saturday :)..
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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 02:00

Sorry guys, but I've had to remove the video for now at the request of the source; it should be available again soon however.
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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 02:33

It has been posted here (not by me):

RAN FAA A4G Skyhawk 1970s: https://www.faaaa.asn.au/spazsinbad-a4g/ AND https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwqC_s6gcCVvG7NOge3qfAQ/
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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 02:41

Dragon029 wrote:Sorry guys, but I've had to remove the video for now at the request of the source; it should be available again soon however.


...shucks, I missed it...but looking back at that photo, I begin to be staggered at the flight control variables that are being computed beyond a (simple??) cat shot! ....errr, am I missing something? :doh: ....how do you keep the "Bee" on the ski-jump?...where do you calculate V2? ...at the bottom of the jump or at the top???...sorry, it's been a long day... :|...I am happy to see the photo.. Yay! :)

...and it's back again and the video explains most of it. The main strut seems to drop about 12" after lift-off (lite-load? (as one might expect?))...thanks again for the video from who ever. Cheers :cheers:
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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 02:45

:doh: :mrgreen: 'neptune' OK for your long day - I get that now - IN my timezone it has been a LONG MORNING and I ain't ate brekkie (breakfast) and it is almost lunch time so I'm a bit ornery.... :devil: :roll:

Another thread has a long description of HOW the F-35B does the ski jump STO and how the flight computer knows that the aircraft is on the ramp and to keep the wheels on the ramp before going ballistic off it - with the aid of significant wing lift now allowed (not on the ski jump though) and the engine lift. I may find it before I faint from low blood sugar. :drool:
RAN FAA A4G Skyhawk 1970s: https://www.faaaa.asn.au/spazsinbad-a4g/ AND https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwqC_s6gcCVvG7NOge3qfAQ/
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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 02:50

spazsinbad wrote::doh: :mrgreen: 'neptune' OK for your long day - I get that now - IN my timezone it has been a LONG MORNING and I ain't ate brekkie (breakfast) and it is almost lunch time so I'm a bit ornery.... :devil: :roll:

Another thread has a long description of HOW the F-35B does the ski jump STO and how the flight computer knows that the aircraft is on the ramp and to keep the wheels on the ramp before going ballistic off it - with the aid of significant wing lift now allowed (not on the ski jump though) and the engine lift. I may find it before I faint from low blood sugar. :drool:


Thanks Spaz, I'll check it in the morn! :)
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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 02:53

For 'bring_it_on'... During a fainting spell I had this vision of the old news about old scheduled JumpDeSki but URL now discontinued so perhaps I'm making it all up? Dunno.
JSF ski jump tests due in 2011
08 Jul 2010 Someone

“'Ski jump' trials of the Lockheed Martin F-35B Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter are expected to take place in 18 months' time at US Naval Air Station (NAS) Patuxent River in Maryland. The tests will see if the F-35B can fly from the take-off ramps to be fitted to the UK Royal Navy's two new Queen Elizabeth-class future aircraft carriers (CVF), but BAE Systems F-35 test pilot Graham Tomlinson told Jane's that he expects such take-offs to be far more straightforward than those from flat deck aircraft carriers.”

Source: http://articles.janes.com/articles/Jane ... -2011.html

JSF programme to proceed with UK-specific land-based carrier trials
09 Jul 2012 Gareth Jennings

“The Program Office for the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) is to shortly commence UK-specific trials for carrier operations of the short take-off/vertical landing (STOVL) variant F-35B, it was announced at the Farnborough Airshow 2012. Speaking on 10 July, BAE Systems lead STOVL test pilot Peter 'Wizzer' Wilson said that 'ski-jump' launch trials will begin at Naval Air Station (NAS) Patuxent River, Maryland, in the near future, while work on the shipborne rolling vertical landing (SRVL) is also ongoing...."

Source: http://www.janes.com/events/exhibitions ... oceed.aspx
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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 03:11

Just a reminder quote:
Ship Shape — F-35/QEC simulator
SEPTEMBER 2014 PAUL E EDEN | ATI Mag'n

"...300 Take-off run in feet from QEC for lightly loaded F-35B

800 Take-off run in feet from QEC for fully loaded F-35B..."

Source: AEROSPACE TESTING INTERNATIONAL September 2014

AND go here for a long detailed story about STOing:

viewtopic.php?f=57&t=24438&p=274982&hilit=Rusnok#p274982
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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 12:48

SLOW MOTION 1st F-35B Ski Jump Launch 19 June 2015

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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 13:02

OMG PR STUNT!!!!! CGI!!!!! LM IS A BUNCH OF CROOKS!!!!!!! :mrgreen:
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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 13:31

:devil: AND the Fwits got it rong :mrgreen: The ski jump is longer than the previous one - wottableedin' liberty.... For the 'nep tunes' among us...
Carrier countdown [MORE of this HERE: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=20304&p=275767&hilit=Robinson#p275767 ]
30 June 2014 Tim Robinson

"...Not your father’s ski-jump
The QE-class’s ski-jump, too, has been carefully designed and engineered from the beginning — drawing on BAE’s Harrier
heritage. Says Atkinson: “We had to go back into the archives and talk to people who had actually been involved with trials with the Sea Harrier and Harrier to make sure we understood the history of ski-jump ramp development. The aircraft carrier ski-jump is a UK innovation and something the UK is very proud of”. The QEC’s ski-jump is longer (200ft) than the Invincible class (150ft) and designed so that the aircraft has all three (including the nose) wheels in contact right up until the point where the aircraft leaves the deck — giving positive nose wheel authority throughout. Additionally, the F-35Bs smart flight control system ‘knows’ when it is going up a ramp and will pre-position the control surfaces and effectors to launch at the optimum angle to avoid pitch-up or down...."

Source: http://aerosociety.com/News/Insight-Blo ... -countdown
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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 15:33

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... -late.html

"OMG they're hidin' something!!!!!! Cancel the program; it's a disaster!!!!" Is it just me or has this guy just turned into a petty, whiny little man?
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Unread post23 Jun 2015, 16:46

Salute!

I did not see any "ballistic" arc, but more like the STO's from the Wasp.

Any Harrier troops out there to give us a clue?

I always thot the deal was provide an upward vector, unload and get to "wing borne" before coming back to the ground/sea. That sucker or two seemed to just gradually accelerate in that "in between" mode.

Gotta be a STO mode, as the Bee I saw here at Eglin awhile back flew a normal base turn and low approach with all the doors open. After stopping at mid field 100ft alt or so ( hover mode, apparently), it transitioned to forward flight and did a closed pattern for a fairly short landing with all the doors open.

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