Bird slicers on the Block 40/42 CCIP

AfterburnerDecalsScott · by **AfterburnerDecalsScott** » 03 Aug 2006, 06:42

Do the block 40/42s that are getting CCIP have the AIFF "bird Slicer" in front of the canopy?

LinkF16SimDude · by **LinkF16SimDude** » 03 Aug 2006, 07:25

Can't think of a reason why they'd put 'em anywhere else as that appears to be the predesignated spot for 'em. Unobstructed view of the entire front hemisphere of the jet makes for the ideal environment for it.

wwb23 · by **wwb23** » 03 Aug 2006, 08:45

I'm not too sure about the Block 40s, but I know that the Block 50s that have been CCIPed have them in front of the canopy. To my knowledge, the only true difference between Block 40s and 50s after CCIP would be the year, the location of some of the beef-up plates (internal or external), and the engines (difference between 40 and 42/ 50 and 52). As far as capabilities go, they are supposed to be able to do the exact same missions. I can't see why they (Depot) would start moving components around between aircraft...

Iron_Eagle · by **Iron_Eagle** » 03 Aug 2006, 13:30

A few days ago Henrik posted a pic of a Block 30 from the WI ANG that has gone through CCIP AND has the IFF installed. Here is the link: http://www.fencecheck.com/forums/index. ... ach=111281

I've also seen Block 25s with IFF installed, and although I haven't seen a Block 40 in such configuration yet, some people on this board have and I would assume that those jets would indeed receive this upgrade in front of the canopy.

wwb23 · by **wwb23** » 03 Aug 2006, 14:17

I'm pretty sure that there have been other versions of the F-16 with this installed. I have seen plenty of pics of her with the bird slicers prior to the existence of CCIP.

AfterburnerDecalsScott · by **AfterburnerDecalsScott** » 03 Aug 2006, 18:09

Reason I'm wondering is I recently got some shots of some block 40s that had supposedly been thru CCIP and don't have the AIFF. I was just wondering...merely from an outward appearanc standpoint....don't care what it does, don't care how it does it, just interested if it was going to be different in appearance from a block 50 CCIP.

LinkF16SimDude · by **LinkF16SimDude** » 03 Aug 2006, 18:12

Well the thing's gotta have some kinda antenna somewhere for the AIFF. Maybe the photo captions weren't quite accurate? Maybe the jet was still in work?

AfterburnerDecalsScott · by **AfterburnerDecalsScott** » 03 Aug 2006, 20:51

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. They came from Hill in the last week, so I guess since their first block 40s are just starting I guess they haven't gotten to those yet. Just making sure.
Thanks!

Roscoe · by **Roscoe** » 03 Aug 2006, 23:28

wwb23 wrote:I'm not too sure about the Block 40s, but I know that the Block 50s that have been CCIPed have them in front of the canopy. To my knowledge, the only true difference between Block 40s and 50s after CCIP would be the year, the location of some of the beef-up plates (internal or external), and the engines (difference between 40 and 42/ 50 and 52). As far as capabilities go, they are supposed to be able to do the exact same missions. I can't see why they (Depot) would start moving components around between aircraft...

I believe they will keep the original HUDs as well (WAR for the CG, and WAC for CJ)

TY47118 · by **TY47118** » 04 Aug 2006, 00:16

I read somewhere the Block 40/42 will not be getting the AIFF.

Henrik · by **Henrik** » 04 Aug 2006, 00:26

Hello all,

In contrast to the Block-50/52 CCIP mod the US Block-40/42s will not receive these "bird Slicers"!! The HUDs stay the same, as well and although the CCIPed US Block-40/42s and Block-50/52s will share the same soft-ware the AN/ASQ-213 HTS system will be a Block-50/52 specific pod only although the up-graded Block-40/42s would be able to use it with their new soft-ware.

Several Block-40/42s have been CCIPed by now as bases like Luke AFB, AZ and Hill AFB, UT, have some up-graded planes flying as we speak.

Greetings,

Henrik.

zone5 · by **zone5** » 04 Aug 2006, 01:20

wwb23 wrote:I'm pretty sure that there have been other versions of the F-16 with this installed. I have seen plenty of pics of her with the bird slicers prior to the existence of CCIP.

Some Block 15 A-models got them when converted to Air Defence Fighter for ANG use back around 1990.

Terry

shiz302 · by **shiz302** » 04 Aug 2006, 02:28

From a purely aesthetic standpoint I think they look mean, it's a shame hill's birds wont be getting 'em.

wwb23 · by **wwb23** » 04 Aug 2006, 07:11

Thanks for setting me straight on this one. I was truly under the impression that they were going to be almost identical after CCIP. I guess the HUD thing isn't that surprising. I am kind of surprised that the HTS pod won't be carried over to the Block 40s, though. That's one of the reasons that the Block 50s have so many hours on them now. Being the only ones capable of that mission and all...

Yeah, I had been thinking of the ADFs that the Guard had/has.

Thanks!

Iron_Eagle · by **Iron_Eagle** » 04 Aug 2006, 13:33

Henrik wrote:Hello all,

In contrast to the Block-50/52 CCIP mod the US Block-40/42s will not receive these "bird Slicers"!! The HUDs stay the same, as well and although the CCIPed US Block-40/42s and Block-50/52s will share the same soft-ware the AN/ASQ-213 HTS system will be a Block-50/52 specific pod only.

Several Block-40/42s have been CCIPed by now as bases like Luke AFB, AZ and Hill AFB, UT, have some up-graded planes flying as we speak.

Greetings,

Henrik.

So Henrik, will there be any external differences between a CCIP'ed Block 40 and one that is not?