Privately-owned military jets ?

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by seat_dreamer » 24 Jul 2006, 12:28

In a previous thread, the possibility of having a Viper as a private civilian property was ruled out. However, there are MiG-15s, british military jets from the 50s and 60s etc. on private service, and I believe even a Phantom.

So, while the procurement of an F-16 may be far-fetched, could an individual with plenty of money (say that Travolta became fighter-obsessed oneday) buy jets like the Phantom or SLUF ? Stripped off from weapons systems and other military material, of course.

Not that I am interested on buying of course, but I was watching pictures of the heritage flight and I was wondering what is "allowed" and what not on old aircraft sales. :D
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by shocktroop » 24 Jul 2006, 14:20

Don't know about Phantoms, but I do know that MiG-21s are being sold on eBay all the time with prices ranging from $200k to $700K+.

UPDATE:
Just found this website which has tons of aircraft for sale, try searching here:
http://www.avitop.com/aircraft/default.asp

You can even buy a MiG-29M for $10mil or a MiG-23 for $50k!


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by parrothead » 24 Jul 2006, 15:21

seat_dreamer wrote:In a previous thread, the possibility of having a Viper as a private civilian property was ruled out. However, there are MiG-15s, british military jets from the 50s and 60s etc. on private service, and I believe even a Phantom.

So, while the procurement of an F-16 may be far-fetched, could an individual with plenty of money (say that Travolta became fighter-obsessed oneday) buy jets like the Phantom or SLUF ? Stripped off from weapons systems and other military material, of course.

Not that I am interested on buying of course, but I was watching pictures of the heritage flight and I was wondering what is "allowed" and what not on old aircraft sales. :D


Yep, there's one privately owned Phantom in the air right now with another one in the works :) . There's also a pair of F-104 Starfighters in private hands which are very familiar to JR - just go to www.starfighters.net. I also know of a couple of KFIRs and Skyhawks over at an outfit called AFTI. Then of course, there's Bill Reesman flying the Red Bull MiG, the Fry's sponsored Patriot jet team flying L-39's, the list goes on.

Sadly, I know all too well that, "No bucks, no Buck Rogers" :lol: :wink: .
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by Night » 24 Jul 2006, 16:03

I wonder if you could purchase an Su-30MK !

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by danimal1504 » 24 Jul 2006, 19:44

a second privately owned phantom? any idea who and where this might be...id love to see one somewhere near here, they never come within hundreds of miles of me


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by Redvan » 24 Jul 2006, 20:02

a private owned F-100 took off ahead of my flight one day out of Dulles Int.

check this low flight pic out: http://www.f-100.org/images/f-100d_n210u.jpg :):)


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by boff180 » 24 Jul 2006, 20:07

Privately owned military jets....

Hmm there are loads.

BAE Systems operate F-100's and A-4's.

Others operate around the world:
Gloster Meteor
De Havilland Vampire
De Havilland Venom
De Havilland Sea Vixen
Hawker Hunter
Hawker Siddley Buccaneer
EE Lightning
Mig-23
Mig-21
Aero L-129
Aero L-29
Saab Draken
F-104
Sabre
Mig-15
Sea Harrier
EE Canberra

In the near future:
Avro Vulcan
Su-22 (if the CAA give up their non-afterburner rule)

In the UK there is one big rule... if it has an afterburner, its not allowed to fly in civil hands.

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by shocktroop » 24 Jul 2006, 20:31

That MiG-29M on avitop.com caught my eye.
Comes with a "Zhuk" radar, OELS, Infra-Red system with - and laser rangemeter, INS, EDOS and two RD-33K afterburning turbofans!!!
http://www.avitop.com/aircraft/aircraft.asp?id=355

Price is: $10mil


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by danimal1504 » 25 Jul 2006, 03:26

theres supposed to be an F-100F here in fort wayne, ive seen it on a far tarmac once, ive never seen it fly unfortunately, and i havent seen it even sit around in probably a year now so im not sure if its still here.


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by TC » 25 Jul 2006, 03:58

There is a group who purchased a Navy F-4B, and I believe they are returning it to flying status. JR dropped me the link awhile back...alas, I can't remember where it is.

There are also privately owned F-86s and T-33s (once again, JR is the resident expert here).

Base price is not usually the killer on these aircraft. The big bucks go into maintenance and fuel costs.

Beers and MiGs were made to be pounded!...(or flown at airshows? :wink:)


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by danimal1504 » 25 Jul 2006, 05:06

an F-4B??? whered they get one of those from? they havent had those at amarc for decades, and the F-4Ns they do have have been stripped for parts reclaimation to the point that they couldnt possibly be restored (maybe theres exceptions). so obviously theyd have to get it from elsewhere, though id have no idea where from. either way itll be awesome to have another Phantom around. now if i could just get one to fly a show somewhere where i can actually get to it...


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by TenguNoHi » 25 Jul 2006, 05:09

F-100 would be nice. I want an F-5 or a T-38 though!

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by Jon » 25 Jul 2006, 14:21

That F-100, you don't see it much. It doesn't go to air shows often. Most likely to see it at Toledo air show. I've been told that Toledo may still have some old F-100 parts laying around and ground crew who have worked on that aircraft so that is why he goes. I have a photo of it I'll post, but I've never seen it fly also.


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by danimal1504 » 26 Jul 2006, 05:03

i wouldnt doubt that toledo has leftover parts, ive heard from some maintenence guys that theres still some F-100 and F-4C/E parts left over here in fort wayne also, which may be why this particular F-100 is here, who knows...


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by danimal1504 » 27 Jul 2006, 03:44

actually tengu, there used to be a T-38 here in the fort in the early 90s, at least from what i can remember cuz thats a little before my time, it was owned by kelly automotive (aka kelley racing)...i dont know what happened to it though, it came to mind because there are 2 vance afb T-38s here at the airport right now, one at mercury and the other on the guard ramp.


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