Pulling G's - Does it hurt?
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Ok, here is a silly question (since there's no such thing as a stupid question): Does it 'hurt' to hit and hold 9G? I know it is alot of strain and such that will wear you out, but does that much force on your a$$ physically hurt? Just curious.
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No - it doesn't hurt. But at the end of the day you know you worked. I was sore from where some of the harness hardware was pushing into my lower back.
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While pulling "gs" you must force blood to your head
You do this by squeezing the lower body
think like you are on the toilet and pushing hard
G suit does this for you , but you still go thru the sam motions
then there are two other things to do
First is called the L manuver
while grunting you hold your breath and slowly let air out
Second is called the M Manuver
same as above except you "growl" or grunt hard
these two "manuvers " tighten the neck muscles and trap blood in your head
in side your head , the eyes use the most blood/oxygen
as you pull more g , the worse your eyes work
you get tunnel vision , then Black
you can still move talk think , just cant see till you ease off on the g
All these manuvers and straining make you feel like a hard workout at the gym
You do this by squeezing the lower body
think like you are on the toilet and pushing hard
G suit does this for you , but you still go thru the sam motions
then there are two other things to do
First is called the L manuver
while grunting you hold your breath and slowly let air out
Second is called the M Manuver
same as above except you "growl" or grunt hard
these two "manuvers " tighten the neck muscles and trap blood in your head
in side your head , the eyes use the most blood/oxygen
as you pull more g , the worse your eyes work
you get tunnel vision , then Black
you can still move talk think , just cant see till you ease off on the g
All these manuvers and straining make you feel like a hard workout at the gym
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Speaking of G maneuvers. I hate the A1 steak sauce commercial on TV! The one with the guy in the centrifuge trying to get the last drop out of the bottle. Duh! The drop goes the wrong way but his face is going the right way. Trust Hollywood not to know how gravity works!
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Just feels like lots of weight being apllied to your body, but that is what g's do. I pulled 9.5 g's on my ride I had popped blood vessels in my forearms and in my legs and they looked like blood blister's but without the blister part. If that makes any sense. Of course I black out too, because I couldn't hold on for the complete 360 degree turn.
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Yeah, Gs don't hurt. I pulled 7.5 on my Tweet ride, and 9.5 on both of my Viper rides. Positive Gs are fun! I had a blast on all of those rides. Never blacked out, and really I didn't even gray out.
Like the Doc said, it really all goes by how you strain against the Gs. Start by tightening your feet, then your calves, then your thighs, then your butt, and then your abs and chest. If you do it correctly, and you're in shape, it shouldn't be a problem.
Positive Gs feel like someone is sitting on your chest. Negative Gs feel like your insides are trying to climb out of your throat. I don't like the negative Gs very much, however, I'll pull all the postive Gs that you want to pull!
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Like the Doc said, it really all goes by how you strain against the Gs. Start by tightening your feet, then your calves, then your thighs, then your butt, and then your abs and chest. If you do it correctly, and you're in shape, it shouldn't be a problem.
Positive Gs feel like someone is sitting on your chest. Negative Gs feel like your insides are trying to climb out of your throat. I don't like the negative Gs very much, however, I'll pull all the postive Gs that you want to pull!
Beers and MiGs were made to be pounded!
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Every once in a while I trade places with the WSO (-15E) just to help myself work the backseat and remember how to do everything a little better and I find that it sucks not controlling the jet and knowing when the Gz are coming. Most WSOs I've worked with for a while are able to predict my actions but still they are usually playing catch-up because they're worrying about their systems. I've had to do a couple flights where I do a night op at about 0200 and then turn around and do a flight at 1400 and the Gz come a little harder during the second sortie. Good story: We had a WSO just finish RTU at Seymour Johnson and he arrived at the squadron bragging how he was the best WSO around. Barely 23 years old and he was a cocky SOB. I flew with him on his second flight at the squadron and after hearing him brag all day, I decided to give him an unannounced 9.2G bank when he was setting up the LANTIRN for a run to a target. I looked in my mirror and saw his head rolling around, unconscious!!! He G-LOCd and when he came to I decided to put him back to sleep with another one. After that he stopped bragging.
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LOL! So have any studies been done about long term effects of multiple G-LOCs? What I mean is that concussions can have a cumulative effect on a person's cognitive ability, is there anything similar with too many blackouts? (Granted if a pilot G-LOCs too many times, terrain might get a say in the outcome)
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Good story: We had a WSO just finish RTU at Seymour Johnson and he arrived at the squadron bragging how he was the best WSO around. Barely 23 years old and he was a cocky SOB. I flew with him on his second flight at the squadron and after hearing him brag all day, I decided to give him an unannounced 9.2G bank when he was setting up the LANTIRN for a run to a target. I looked in my mirror and saw his head rolling around, unconscious!!! He G-LOCd and when he came to I decided to put him back to sleep with another one. After that he stopped bragging.
Good story, Raptorkiller, I have heard stories of WSOs suffering serious neck or head injuries from high ammounts of unexpected Gs. Most of these occured while looking down at their screens and their neck being contorsed. Or the G's changing opposite direction and their neck and head being slammed into the seat or their console. Is there any system used to help prevent the WSO of this or does life just suck as a backseater?
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TC wrote:Yeah, Gs don't hurt. I pulled 7.5 on my Tweet ride, and 9.5 on both of my Viper rides.
So on all your rides, the pilot over-g'ed the aircraft?
Seems like a good "fishing story" to me...
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