F-35 Simulator for DCS in development

Hi there,

There didnt seem to be a F-35 simulator section yet, so I hope this is in the right place!

On behalf of the team at Kinney Interactive, we would like to introduce you to our F-35 simulator that is currently in development for DCS (Digital Combat Simulator).
Some of you may be familar with their previous titles, DCS A-10 and Black Shark.

We are currently running a kickstarter campaign to help fund development of this project, which will start with the F-35A, and then move on to the B and C models (with related naval assets).

We are currently a third of the way to goal, with 9 days remaining.
The project will go ahead regardless if the kickstarter is successful or not, but the reason we came to the community first to fill this funding gap before accepting external investors is that we want to re-create as detailed and authentic a simulation of the F-35 as possible, and historically we have all see what can happen when publishers get involved in a project. We are dedicated to providing an accurate and as realistic as possible simulation to the level of the previous DCS titles.

One of the things that is most important to us is having a strong community around this product, so even if the kickstarter is not successful, everyone who has pledged at the OPEVAL (beta testing) level or higher will be invited to take part in the testing programme, for the A, B and C models, and this will be the only source of testers for the programme.

If you visit our website, http://www.kinneyinteractive.com/ you can find out more about our development team and background.

Our kickstarter url is:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/683 ... nteractive
and if you use facebook you can keep up with the latest news here: https://www.facebook.com/DCSF35

So if you are a fan of the F-35 and flight sims, this is a great opportunity to get your foot in the door before the price increases at retail, and to help the development of this sim through the in-game test programme. (check the video on the kickstarter for more information on the testing programme).

We hope some of you will join us in this project!

Maverick

DCS F-35A Follow us on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/DCSF35
DCS F-35A Kickstarter:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/683 ... nteractive
DCS F-35A Website:
http://www.kinneyinteractive.com/#!dcs- ... g-ii/c1bom

Due to requests from both high pledgers and virtual squadrons, we have added two new pledge levels!

The first of these is the $1,000 level, which gives you not only all the rewards of the previous tiers, including a digital AND boxed copy of the F-35A sim, OPEVAL access, hard copy manual, test patch, and both the F-35B and F-35C ? additional aircraft, it also includes personalised versions of all three aircraft, and your own custom paint job*!

The second addition is we have had some groups ask us about getting their squadron represented or reserved in-game. Now for $3,000 you can get 12 digital copies of the A, B or C model, and 12 personalised aircraft with an exclusive custom squadron paint scheme* (Can be real or fictional) - this is limited to a first in, first served basis, so get in quick to secure your squadron.

*custom paint designs subject to KI approval

Sounds like a good project and hope it succeeds. I've seen there's also another group developing the F-22. I have the F-15 for DCS World and the level of detail in the cockpit is amazing, especially with a TrackIR for following head movements. If these guys can get the helmet right with TrackIR, this will be a winner. Not payin up till then tho

There is always the free FREE free version of the F-35A/B/C for MS FSX Accelerator available from:

http://indiafoxtecho.blogspot.com.au/20 ... dback.html

Version 2.21
FROM: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1VJtKJ ... sp=sharing (140Mb)

See here for a cascade of info (work backwards or seach forum on 'Cattaneo') : http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNph ... neo#239600

Hey Spazsinbad,

Yep thats a great free add-on for FSX, but what we are developing is a combat simulation including a complete campaign aswell
After all, its only so much fun to fly around without being able to use this amazing aircraft for its intended purpose

<b>mavericknz</b>
Yep thats a great free add-on for FSX, but what we are developing is a combat simulation including a complete campaign

That's one of the things that always bugged be about Microsoft Flight Simulator (which sadly Microsoft had now abandoned for a watered down "Microsoft Flight" or something) is that you can't <b>kill</b> anything!
Definitely adding your <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/683368164/f-35a-lightning-ii-by-kinney-interactive">kickstarter F-35 simulator project</a> to my "radar" (if you'll pardon the expression). A F-35 Lightning II simulator using the DCS graphic engine is definitely something I would root for! Good to see the flight simulator market for the PC hasn't been entirely killed off by XBox's and Playstations!
Wish you the best of luck - checking my credit card balances and eyeballing the $30 to $70 pledge range now....

AAaaahhh BUT youse can carrier deck land - which up until FSX Accelerator was not really doable in any previous version of MsFlightSims including FSX until the Accelerator version provided the free F/A-18 Hornet and carrier and then it was better enabled by free addons such as the SLUDGE HORNET and I believe the FSX Blue Angels Hornet version (FSXBA) but I have not tried that. The original flying qualities of the original FSX Accel Hornet are not realistic but when modded by above persons - IT ARE GOOD! Then throw in the freeware vLSO:

http://vlso.blogspot.com.au/ and youse are cookin' with gas.... Do some FCLP first (found at same website).

There <i>are</i> some good mod's out there for FSX (I'd rather go for a F-14 Tomcat, especially the "D" model with all the "bell's and whistles" than an F/A-18 of any kind, but that's just me). Keep hearing some nasty rumors that since Microsoft has come out with Microsoft Flight and has discontinued (official) support for Microsoft Flight Simulator X that it's a real @#$% to activate.
See Chris says:
MS Flight Simulator X support has been discontinued, and Authentication Servers have gone offline. I don't recommend purchasing it. from <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Will-work-2009-need-specs-/forum/Fx1TX8SPITZW7Q9/Tx18U5BWOSWSJTG/1/ref=cm_cd_ef_rt_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B001DPZE84">here</a> and...
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Does-this-have-activation/forum/Fx1TX8SPITZW7Q9/Tx3A6FBK1OKOT5Z/1/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B001DPZE84">here</a>
See also chas2e61 says:
On Win 7 compatibility list, I'm beginning to think this list is Worthless, it says it won't work. Thats why I'm here this morning.
Larry M says:
Gregory, I've installed Flight Sim X, gold in my windows 7 64bit but I get a fatal error message every time I try to open it. The box states it's for windows XP SP2 & Vista but Amazon listed this item for windows XP, Vista & 7 and that's why I bought it. I also have flight sim X and accelerator for win XP in my older PC. If you find a way to install gold in win 7 let me know.
quilter says:
I bought this a week ago, and after installing the "accelerator" disk, I had errors on start up every time. Then in the middle of a flight, I would get a message saying that my 30 minutes was up, and that I had to complete the 'activation'. I had already completed it all, with success. I got tired of these messages, so I linked to the Microsoft support site, where it told me how to fix this specific problem with FSX. Needless to say, after several boots, etc, I am now unable to even boot up the system. Software support (from the mfg, Lenovo) now has to send me a boot CD...!!! Fortunately, I had a one-year paid support. They told me that FSX was 'more' compatible with Vista. Duh! Win 7 has been out for several years. If th developers have not fixed it yet, I doubt they will. Should have bought a Mac instead. I know that FSX would run on that.
Larry M says:
Has anyone been successful with the installation of Microsoft Flight Simulator Gold or Microsoft Flight Simulator X & Acceleration pack in any version of windows 7, 64 bit? From http://www.amazon.com/Compatible-Window ... ssionsNRPB

Little leery about Microsoft customer support for Flight Sim X. And oh yeah, I still want to shoot something!

We just added another massive pledge reward, this time you can score yourself a Centurion SIMPIT! Its an amazing setup which includes screen & shell, 5 projectors, warping / blending software, Butt Kicker and seat with flight control holders. If you haven't yet pledged, check out our great reward deals to secure a heavily discounted copy of the F-35 sim and get exclusive access to our OPEVAL testing team!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/683368164/f-35a-lightning-ii-by-kinney-interactive

Also we have released some work in progress images of the Instrument panel

All kinds of dumb things happen with FSX for sure. Probably best to go to an actual FlightSim forum for advice rather than a NOT explicit FlightSim place. You will see my online tag at these places although most of my posts on this 'fsdreamteam' forum are in the far past these days. Why? Because I do not have FSX Accel GOLD installed at moment and I'm busy with other stuff ;but, I keep my eye in on this 'Hornet/Deck Landing forum:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?board=4.0

Another board specifically for a recent release of an A-4 series would be here:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/s ... ht=Skyhawk

'FlightDreamz' I would suggest that you read appropriate threads on these or similar forums (AVSIM.com would be another but I have not looked there for years) for advice about your particular FSX Accelerator problem.

As for myself I last activated on this relatively new computer about 6 months ago now without a problem and I have had FSX Gold installed no problems on Win8 64bits and Win7 64bits with no particular thing done to make it work (once activated). Perhaps some generic advice would be to install the first part of whatever you have and run it / activate it if required then install the next part/update / Accelerator - you see it all depends on what you start with and you have not said. Also with the Win7 and Win8 OSs make sure they are as up to date as they can be - and do not make any changes to where the program FSX will install and do not make any 'compatability changes' because Windows knows what to do. So go to these forums or any other specific FSX Forum to glean information and advice.

Hey Spazinbad, this is a thread about the F-35 for DCS, not FSX, can we please keep on topic, thanks!

mavericknz wrote:Hey Spazinbad, this is a thread about the F-35 for DCS, not FSX, can we please keep on topic, thanks!

The n00b has spoken Sinbad... ... better do what he says whether this thread belongs here or not.

mavericknz wrote:Hey Spazinbad, this is a thread about the F-35 for DCS, not FSX, can we please keep on topic, thanks!

I know your new here... but in case your unaware, topics drift back and forward on most forums, including this one, and last time I checked.. there is a specific forum section for flightsims on f-16.net and this aint it.

And for the record, how long has it been since you last landed on an actual carrier? SpazSinbad and others here might actually be able to give you valuable information that is not obvious unless you've been there, done that, and landed on a carrier. Hint: It aint easy.

I used to work on mission systems simulators, sometimes using actual F/A-18 avionics. I don't currently run DCS or FSX, but have been known to.

Neurotech, what flight simulator on PC would you say has the most accurate physics?

kamenriderblade wrote:Neurotech, what flight simulator on PC would you say has the most accurate physics?

It's hard to say overall, because most flightsim models are based on add-ons, where quality may vary.

Even in the professional, approved simulators, used to train test pilots, the physics model isn't always accurate. Stall modelling in the 737-800/900 was recently upgraded with P-8A program data, although the 737NG aircraft has been flying since '97

I liked Falcon 4.0 even though there were a few issues, such as a damage-prone landing gear (later patched). I wasn't particularly impressed with the physics in F/A-18E Super Hornet. This was at a time when we had actual aircraft (F/A-18E/Fs and F-16s) to fly.

Unless somebody has actual test data or considerable flying experience in the jet, they wont get the modeling for how the F/A-18 bleeds energy during a high-G turn right. Another area where a lot of sims show their limits is conducting single engine ops, loose an engine at the wrong time in an actual F/A-18 and the crew are in a parachute. That isn't modelled anywhere near to close to the real jet. Lets say I loaded the VFA-106 mishap engine settings, no PC sim gets close to the actual physics involved. Actually, even the Boeing (L-3) simulators couldn't get that right. I'm not sure if they've upgraded them since that mishap. Another example would be trying to fly a carrier wave off in single-engine landing config. There is considerably drag on the jet, and when the single goes to AB, a lot of yaw. I'm surprised more jets haven't been lost trying to go around on one engine.