
IMAO this is another example of campaign a fraud using smear tactics to try to smear a veteran for political or and financial gain. Dirty politics.
The claim.
So am I supposed to believe that John McCain deliberately caused a “wet start” as a joke on a loaded carrier during wartime, and the flame miraculously went a direction that you would not expect and went a distance that you would not expect, and that the flash fire triggered a Zuni rocket that you would not expect from a simple flash fire, that coincidentally it shot the Zuni rocket narrowly missing the aircraft that allegedly had the “wet start”.
1: I would think a Zuni rocket would resist a temporary or fireball from a wet start.
2: From what I recall the video evidence showed there was no “wet start”
3: I've heard a lot of rumors, and there has been a lot of conflicting information on this matter. However I thought the “wet start” rumors were just suspicions, that were quickly dismissed decades ago shortly after the mishap after analyzing the video evidence. I don't recall anyone from the investigation giving any credence to the “wet start” theory.
4: I thought the aircraft that fired the Zuni rocket was in the wrong direction and too far away to be affected McCain's alleged wet start.
Several people the past few days have tried to start this rumor. At first I didn't approve the comments and in haste I deleted them. However I did break down and approve one, so I could debunk, challenge and refute his claims.
I am not an expert on this mishap. I know very little information about it. Virtually everything I know about it is publicly available. I don't know that much about the Navy.
If I'm wrong on something, please let me know with criticism. If I'm right or you have more to add please do and feel free to figuratively beat up on this individual is posting at my YouTube video. Please try to remain civil and please try not to use vulgarities.
USS Forrestal Mishap July 29, 1967
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuiyXQKw3I
Another individual or alias that tried to post on my video has successfully posted on another video.
Here is his claim.
Here is the video he posted at.
POWs & MIAs UNITED AGAINST John McCain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTe7cuyx6J4
This is some of the dirtiest politics I have seen since the 70s.
There needs to be real campaign reform. There needs to be better laws that better prevent slander and defamation of character. The laws need to include political candidates. I think it is a form of campaign corruption that is destroying our government and our reputation.
I have mixed feelings about McCain. I think his war record is pretty good from what I have seen. He served as a Navy pilot, unfortunately was shot down, unfortunately like most he talked after being tortured. I don't really hold the fact that he talked against him, because he was a captive and he was being tortured, I suspect the amount he talked and what he talked about really didn't matter that much. I also feel almost anyone would talk if they are a captive and tortured enough.
The thing I have the most mixed feelings on is his politics. I really think he has a mixed record that is kind of poor. However he is one of the few candidates that has supported our troops, however I don't think it has been enough. I really don't like ANY of the current candidates. I feel all of the current candidates create a vacuum.
The claim.
008klm wrote:
Surviving crewmen and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately 'wet-started' his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his A-4. 'Wet-starts', done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.
So am I supposed to believe that John McCain deliberately caused a “wet start” as a joke on a loaded carrier during wartime, and the flame miraculously went a direction that you would not expect and went a distance that you would not expect, and that the flash fire triggered a Zuni rocket that you would not expect from a simple flash fire, that coincidentally it shot the Zuni rocket narrowly missing the aircraft that allegedly had the “wet start”.
1: I would think a Zuni rocket would resist a temporary or fireball from a wet start.
2: From what I recall the video evidence showed there was no “wet start”
3: I've heard a lot of rumors, and there has been a lot of conflicting information on this matter. However I thought the “wet start” rumors were just suspicions, that were quickly dismissed decades ago shortly after the mishap after analyzing the video evidence. I don't recall anyone from the investigation giving any credence to the “wet start” theory.
4: I thought the aircraft that fired the Zuni rocket was in the wrong direction and too far away to be affected McCain's alleged wet start.
Several people the past few days have tried to start this rumor. At first I didn't approve the comments and in haste I deleted them. However I did break down and approve one, so I could debunk, challenge and refute his claims.
I am not an expert on this mishap. I know very little information about it. Virtually everything I know about it is publicly available. I don't know that much about the Navy.
If I'm wrong on something, please let me know with criticism. If I'm right or you have more to add please do and feel free to figuratively beat up on this individual is posting at my YouTube video. Please try to remain civil and please try not to use vulgarities.
USS Forrestal Mishap July 29, 1967
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuiyXQKw3I
Another individual or alias that tried to post on my video has successfully posted on another video.
Here is his claim.
openyoureyesin2008 wrote:
134 sailors were killed on the USS Forrestal in 1967.
It is believed by many crewmen and investigators that John McCain deliberately 'wet-started' his A-4E to shake up the guy in the plane behind his A-4. 'Wet-starts' shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.
In McCain's case, the 'wet-start' apparently 'cooked off' and launched the Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that touched off the explosions.
Here is the video he posted at.
POWs & MIAs UNITED AGAINST John McCain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTe7cuyx6J4
This is some of the dirtiest politics I have seen since the 70s.
There needs to be real campaign reform. There needs to be better laws that better prevent slander and defamation of character. The laws need to include political candidates. I think it is a form of campaign corruption that is destroying our government and our reputation.
I have mixed feelings about McCain. I think his war record is pretty good from what I have seen. He served as a Navy pilot, unfortunately was shot down, unfortunately like most he talked after being tortured. I don't really hold the fact that he talked against him, because he was a captive and he was being tortured, I suspect the amount he talked and what he talked about really didn't matter that much. I also feel almost anyone would talk if they are a captive and tortured enough.
The thing I have the most mixed feelings on is his politics. I really think he has a mixed record that is kind of poor. However he is one of the few candidates that has supported our troops, however I don't think it has been enough. I really don't like ANY of the current candidates. I feel all of the current candidates create a vacuum.
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