F-16 - Medical Supply Transport

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Unread post22 Apr 2016, 18:16

Pretty neat article below about a Norwegian Viper that rushed medical equipment across the country to save a dying patient.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/a ... ng-patient

Also see: http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article5014.html
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Unread post23 Apr 2016, 01:35

This article did not say if the jet was flying supersonic during the flight. The location and readiness of the F-16 made this flight feasible. A civilian jet like a Citation X (M0.92 MMO or ~600 mph) would not be much slower, assuming the F-16 remained subsonic.
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Unread post23 Apr 2016, 02:47

I know. It certainly didn't seem like the most practical solution. Nonetheless, I thought it was a cool story and worth sharing.
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Unread post23 Apr 2016, 10:13

I think our USAF did a similar thing in the 1980's with an F-111 crew……maybe even on Valentine's day or something newsworthy. Can't recall at the moment.
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Unread post23 Apr 2016, 15:47

(Taiwanese newspapers translated this article as source.)

Norsk F-16 reddet dødssyk hjertepasient
2016/04/21
REDNINGSFLYET: Det var dette F-16-flyet fra 338 Skvadronen på Ørland som på utrolig vis reddet livet til hjertepasienten i Bodø.

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/fors ... /23664829/
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Unread post23 Apr 2016, 18:59

The Viper in question is 682.

According to the article, the pilot pushed the throttle a little extra, saving some 10-15 min on the distance ;)
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Unread post24 Apr 2016, 11:28

neurotech wrote:This article did not say if the jet was flying supersonic during the flight. The location and readiness of the F-16 made this flight feasible. A civilian jet like a Citation X (M0.92 MMO or ~600 mph) would not be much slower, assuming the F-16 remained subsonic.


Norwegian air ambulance uses Beech King Airs, so I'm guessing the F-16s in this situation could provide quite a bit more oomph.

The other part of the story is all other options were unavailable at short notice - the F-16 was almost ready to go. Adding to that, the distance can be covered over the north sea, so they probably did have the option to go supersonic at least parts of the stretch (They sometimes do during interceptions, so it may easily be argued they could be allowed to when a life was on the line).
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Unread post24 Apr 2016, 20:36

krorvik wrote:
neurotech wrote:This article did not say if the jet was flying supersonic during the flight. The location and readiness of the F-16 made this flight feasible. A civilian jet like a Citation X (M0.92 MMO or ~600 mph) would not be much slower, assuming the F-16 remained subsonic.


Norwegian air ambulance uses Beech King Airs, so I'm guessing the F-16s in this situation could provide quite a bit more oomph.

The other part of the story is all other options were unavailable at short notice - the F-16 was almost ready to go. Adding to that, the distance can be covered over the north sea, so they probably did have the option to go supersonic at least parts of the stretch (They sometimes do during interceptions, so it may easily be argued they could be allowed to when a life was on the line).

I personally think its a good use for an F-16. Pilots & crew "scrambling" to load and launch a fighter in minutes is part of their training. If its necessary to go supersonic to save a life, then go for it, and worry about (unlikely) broken windows later.

It would be interesting if this F-16 carried a FLIR pod, but there was no mention of adverse weather.

As you mentioned, the lack of other aircraft was a factor in this story. I'm actually surprised at how poorly provisioned some medical services are when it comes to aircraft. With the cost of specialist medical care, and specialist medical equipment being so high, it actually makes flying jets (both fighters and civilian bizjets) look like the cheaper option.

The G450/G550 was the only mainstream aircraft with FLIR/EVS although they are considered "too expensive" for dedicated Air Ambulance flight operations, but the fallout from a crash is even more expensive. EVS can be retrofitted to older Lear and Falcon biz jets, which are smaller and cheaper while being able to fly at M0.85+ in high speed cruise.
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Unread post25 Apr 2016, 21:03

smitty14 wrote:Pretty neat article below about a Norwegian Viper that rushed medical equipment across the country to save a dying patient.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/a ... ng-patient

Also see: http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article5014.html


A similar story from 1975:

http://www.starfighter.no/web/hist-no2.html

In January 1975, the Starfighter shown that it can also be used for humanitarian work. A patient at Rikshospitalet in Oslo would receive transplanted kidneys from a donor at the central hospital in Tromso. The time factor was crucial and a request was addressed to LKN for help. A UH-1B from 339 skv. picked up the kidneys in Tromso and brought them to the waiting Starfighter at Bardufoss. Captain Helge Moe from 331 skv. then headed for Gardermoen where the Falkens rescue corps took over. From here, it went with a police escort the final stretch to the National Hospital in Oslo. From the request came in to LKN until the kidney was at the operating table, it took only 5 hours and 15 minutes.
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Unread post29 Apr 2016, 19:12

The jet used was #682 /80-3682 , according to local sources.


http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F ... ofile/952/
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Unread post29 Apr 2016, 19:16

They just write this off as a training mission. At Hahn we used to get jets coming in so the pilots could go to our Class VI store all the time since it was just a few blocks from the ramp. I helped load many a bottle of booze into a jet. The pilots asked if they could bring us back anything. We would tell them a cold coke would be perfect. Going out to transit alert was always interesting :wink:
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Unread post29 Apr 2016, 21:08

One fun fact is that the pilot did not know what kind of instrument he was transporting or what it was used for.
He learned about that after the flight.

The only thing he was told to was to get to Bodø ASAP.

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