Why no color-tone camouflage on the F-35?

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Unread post19 Nov 2010, 00:30

Yes AF-6 is. Did anyone say if these will receive a two tone style camo or still just the single grey?
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Unread post19 Nov 2010, 10:05

I can't confirm nor deny bandit but you are getting warm, VERY WARM and yes AF-6 is the very first LRIP jet and it's a thing of beauty.
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Unread post25 Jan 2011, 23:20

Happy_Gilmore wrote:I can't confirm nor deny bandit but you are getting warm, VERY WARM and yes AF-6 is the very first LRIP jet and it's a thing of beauty.


So any photos yet?
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Unread post26 Jan 2011, 01:35

There is some speculation that the Raptor's 2-tone paint scheme is possibly a stealth measure implemented to distort the aircraft's outline and spoof advanced IR missiles.
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Unread post26 Jan 2011, 02:50

My guess is that since the F-35 is more of a "mud mover" while the F-22 is mostly air to air (with some limited ground attack - at least currently) the F-22 (and some F-15's if I remember right) received the two-tone camo while the F-35 has the overall grey paint job. Although as other's have mentioned the F-35's paint scheme could change. My :2c: Wonder how Britain and other countries will decide to paint it?
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Unread post04 May 2021, 13:38

I thought this old thread was best to discuss F-35 color (paint) schemes. There's another more recent thread, but it was dedicated to the F-35 Aggressor unit that is being stood up at Nellis.

The F-35 has been a single, monotone grey for the longest time. Maybe a second grey here and there. National roundels implemented all in grey, leaving out their color... until the Danes came along. Now the Jarheads are sallying forth on HMS QE with red and white audaciously splashed on their tails. Spaz has pointed out aircraft with yellow and blue.

What is it with the paint schemes on the F-35? Is the aircraft limited to grey due to VLO requirements? For example, are the requisite magic anti-radar fairy dust particles only available in grey? Or is it a cost issue? Manufacturing different colors with the magic fairy dust is prohibitively expensive for small batches of paint -- or the manner in which the paint is applied is cost prohibitive (or schedule prohibitive)?

I for one like the red on the Danish aircraft. Everything being grey otherwise makes the red pop even more.
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Unread post04 May 2021, 16:05

Have you made an unwarranted assumption about 'paints'? One would expect USAF Aggressor F-35s to have unusual paint schemes however I don't recall seeing any used so far. Meanwhile here is the Israeli ADIR test F-35i to 'light up your sky':

FULL story about aircraft including paint scheme: https://theaviationist.com/2020/11/13/l ... -received/

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Unread post04 May 2021, 17:59

steve2267 wrote:What is it with the paint schemes on the F-35? Is the aircraft limited to grey due to VLO requirements? For example, are the requisite magic anti-radar fairy dust particles only available in grey? Or is it a cost issue? Manufacturing different colors with the magic fairy dust is prohibitively expensive for small batches of paint -- or the manner in which the paint is applied is cost prohibitive (or schedule prohibitive)?


I don't think Grey and Stealth (against radar) are related to each other. For instance F-117s were painted black while at least some B-2s seem to be painted in a blue-grey color scheme.
If you notice the F-35 isn't the only (fighter) aircraft which nowadays is painted almost exclusively in grey. F-15s, F-16s and F/A-18s are also painted in grey as well.
IMO grey is related to 'stealth' but only against the most basic sensor of all - the pilot's MKI eyeball :wink:

Resuming, grey is used nowadays by NATO forces because it's considered to be the lowest visibility paint scheme (in the light spectrum) specially when aircraft are flying at higher altitudes (which seems to be mostly the case for these aircraft).
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Unread post06 May 2021, 19:43

My favorite Colored photos from my folder. 8)

Greeeeeen. (I would like to see more use of green.)
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Full of Blue. :shock:
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