UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 25 Sep 2020, 01:25

There are a few other stories probably in this F-35 forum about USMC Harriers aboard INVINCIBLE CLASS decks. By the By Art Nalls is selling or has sold his Harrier Collection. Art did some great JumpYdeSki testing on various ships back in time.

USMC aboard 'LUSTY' 2007: https://sldinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... PV0052.jpg [NOW CROPPED/rotated] & https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... 147594.jpg [crop]

madrat · by **madrat** » 25 Sep 2020, 01:58

Something like that looks like it could still work with F-35B.

F-35B is quite a bit larger.

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 25 Sep 2020, 03:13

Now what is 'something like that'? It was found very early on in F-35B development that it would not fit aboard the INVINCIBLE CLASS and with them being broken up there was no point to make the INVINCIBLES F-35B worthy. However one worthy SPANYARD (yes I know) built the JCI with an eye to 'one day' accommodate the F-35B (with data known at that early time in development). That JUAN CARLOS 1st LHD went on to be built TWICE for the RAN (no intention for F-35Bs).

Alackram Alarum there is a thread about F-35B compatible NON-US ships with lots of info about them as well as the newbies in Asia for Japan and South Korea and other p'raps. 61 forum pages of excellent goodness about such stuff:

F-35B (Non-US) Pocket Carriers viewtopic.php?f=22&t=20426

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 27 Sep 2020, 20:18

Bunch of 26 photos about USMC F-35Bs aboard QUEEN ELIZABETH (QNLZ) on DVIDS:

https://www.dvidshub.net/image/6358992/ ... -elizabeth

OR when logged in: https://www.dvidshub.net/search?q=QNLZ&view=grid

PHOTO: https://www.dvidshub.net/download/image/6358992 (7.2Mb JPG) [ZOOM of TAIL attached below]
&
https://www.dvidshub.net/download/image/6358972 (4.3Mb JPG) anotherie but downsampled to post here.

zhangmdev · by **zhangmdev** » 27 Sep 2020, 20:48

Operating in rain 35 photos

https://www.dvidshub.net/image/6361062/if-aint-raining

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 27 Sep 2020, 21:35

Good one - many thanks. And our WHITE version FAV going off the HIGH JUMP (singing in the rain?) : https://www.dvidshub.net/download/image/6361097 (10.5Mb JPG) resized etc for forum below

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 01 Oct 2020, 17:17

Youse wanted gun pods on BEEs on the QE so here goes.... FRUM (yes I know): https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... pare-parts

"A US Marine Corps F-35B accelerates in preparation for launch from the deck of HMS Queen Elizabeth at sea on 28 September 2020.... (3rd Marine Aircraft Wing)" https://www.janes.com/images/default-so ... w-8272.jpg

zhangmdev · by **zhangmdev** » 01 Oct 2020, 18:59

High Explosives on the High Sea

https://www.dvidshub.net/image/6373605/ ... s-high-sea

So this is the first time real bombs are integrated onboard QE?

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 01 Oct 2020, 21:48

'Real Bombs' = 'Live Bombs'? Search this thread using 'bomb' : viewtopic.php?f=58&t=15969&p=429591&hilit=bomb#p429591 for download/file.php?id=31756 otherwise on 18 Oct 2018 tests: download/file.php?id=28595

Live bombs will have been tested before today especially assembly & transport on QE weapon system gear etc.

"...One innovation involves the system for delivering missiles and bombs from the armoury to the aircraft. This has always been the responsibility of naval officers, but on HMS Elizabeth a machine will undertake the work. "We have this automated weapon hunting system that picks the bomb off the shelf, takes it up to an area where human beings put fins on it, and then the system will take it up to the flight deck. That is a world of difference to how the Americans do things, and indeed most other nations, where there are people in the magazine. There is a lot to think about."..." http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013 ... -deterrent

zhangmdev · by **zhangmdev** » 01 Oct 2020, 22:03

IIRC those blue ones are concrete bombs.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/first-b ... elizabeth/

Season 2 of UK's biggest war ship shows an F-35 ceremoniously drops 4 of them into the sea.

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 01 Oct 2020, 22:13

Agree however TESTing earlier will have included LIVE bombs. No one gets into LIVE weapons especially using new equipment without thorough testing first with inert then live stuff beforehand. No one left MARINES to test the live ones.

weasel1962 · by **weasel1962** » 05 Oct 2020, 01:56

Nice vid. F-35B ops on QE.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-54411984

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 05 Oct 2020, 03:58

Nice Landing Interval - screenshot from BBC video above....

zhangmdev · by **zhangmdev** » 06 Oct 2020, 02:37

The full United Kingdom (UK) Carrier Strike Group (CSG) assembled at sea on 04 October, 2020.

https://www.dvidshub.net/image/6380495/ ... -assembles

First Replenishment at Sea (RAS) with RFA Fort Victoria in the North Sea on Sep 30.

The flotila includes

HMS Northumberland (F238)
HMS Kent (F78)
HMS Diamond (D34)
HMS Defender (D36)
RFA Fort Victoria (A387)
RFA Tideforce (A139)
USS The Sullivans (DDG-68)
HNLMS Evertsen (F805)

And reportedly an unnamed British nuclear submarine
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/what-sh ... ike-group/

So there are "15 F-35B"?

noth · by **noth** » 06 Oct 2020, 20:11

Yes, 5 RAF/RN, 10 USMC.