Australian lawmakers confident in F-35's future

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Unread post08 May 2021, 03:56

Methinks 'horses' F-35Bs while cart is the CVF? Whatever. IIRC Australia has recently signed a more co-operative ADF/RAN arrangement with the UK exactly because of developments in the South China Sea. RAAF still needs a land role for F-35B.
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Unread post08 May 2021, 06:07

You're an island nation (one right big one). Island hopping / FOBs & FARPs / forward deployed are not in yor vocabulary?

I understand what you're saying.
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Unread post08 May 2021, 08:38

The ADF is a DEFENCE force so we assume we are not an ATTACK force which island hopping etc. implies - we're not USMC.
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Unread post08 May 2021, 15:27

steve2267 wrote:You're an island nation (one right big one). ..


Actually Australia is a continent. Greenland is an island ....

Just nitpicking, :D ,
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Unread post08 May 2021, 16:24

blindpilot wrote:
steve2267 wrote:You're an island nation (one right big one). ..


Actually Australia is a continent. Greenland is an island ....

Just nitpicking, :D ,
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And IMO you would be 100% correct in nitpicking about that.

Actually I have a few of Brazilian friends that often brag about their nation being a 'continent nation' due to its size and for which I reply:
- No, your country/nation isn't a 'continent nation'. Your country/nation is part of the South American continent which includes other countries/nations. The only 'continent nation' in the world is Australia!

(this is me 'nitpicking' :mrgreen: )
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Unread post08 May 2021, 16:47

:devil: So now I know why I'm IN CONTINENT! Australia you're standing in it. :shock: How much can a KOALA BEAR? :roll: :mrgreen:
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Unread post08 May 2021, 16:54

It depends on the Diaper's absorption capability :devil: :mrgreen:
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Unread post13 May 2021, 04:18

RAAF to conduct four week exercise at Darwin, Tindal base
12 May 2021 Newsroom Katherine Times

"For four weeks, the Royal Australian Air Force will be conducting exercise Arnehm Thunder 21 (AT21) from the RAAF Base Darwin and Tindal. From May 17 to June 15, the Air Force will deploy a collection of aircraft and over 500 personnel for the exercise who will be arriving in the week prior to commencement.

The following aircraft and personnel will be based at RAAF Base Darwin:
10 x F-35A from 3 Squadron
• 10 x F/A-18F Super Hornet from 1 Squadron
• 6 x EA-18G Growler from 6 Squadron
• 1 x KC-30A Multi Role Tanker Transport from 33 Squadron
• 2 x E-7A Wedgetail from 2 Squadron
• Personnel from 381 Contingency Response Squadron
• Personnel from 65 Squadron

The following aircraft and personnel will be based at RAAF Base Tindal:... [RED TEAM?]

...The training will be conducted to ensure the RAAF is prepared to respond to the defence of Australia, when required...."

Source: https://www.katherinetimes.com.au/story ... ndal-base/
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Unread post18 May 2021, 10:11

RAAF's new F-35 fighter soars over Top End
18 May 2021 Aaron Bunch

"The Australian Defence Force's new Joint Strike Fighter has taken to the skies above the Northern Territory for the first large-scale air combat training exercise since the COVID pandemic hit. About a dozen [great reporting (how about TEN see above)] Royal Australian Air Force F-35A Lightning II fighters made the trek to the Top End, along with 40 other aircraft and over 500 Defence personnel, for the month-long exercise.

"Exercise Arnhem Thunder 21 marks the first opportunity the F-35 has had to deploy domestically inside Australia," No. 3 Squadron Commanding Officer Matthew Harper told reporters on Tuesday. "It's also the first opportunity we've had to drop a large number of bombs from that aircraft."...

..."It's over land, the airspace is really large and an amazing opportunity to spread out and practise our operations in a contested environment," he said. "It also has some fantastic range facilities, which Defence has spent a lot of money improving over the last few years."...

...The fifth-generation fighting jets have a top speed 1.6 times the speed of sound at almost 2000km/h - and a $124 million price tag to boot [Aus $124 million currently equals approx. US $97]. They were developed by Lockheed Martin over 16 years under a controversial program that cost taxpayers $17 billion [13,258,300,000.00 US dollars] for 72 of the aircraft...."

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Unread post10 Jun 2021, 12:03

RAAF flies F-35A fighter aircraft with full weapons load for the first time
08 Jun 2021 Alessandra Giovanzanti

"The Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) has for the first time flown the Lockheed Martin F-35A Joint Strike Fighter aircraft carrying a full complement of internal and external weapons, the Australian Department of Defence (DoD) announced on 7 June. Two fully laden F-35As, part of a group of 10 aircraft of the type, were deployed in May from RAAF Base Williamtown to RAAF Base Darwin to take part in the Exercise ‘Arnhem Thunder 21' (12 May–15 June) – one of the RAAF's largest domestic training exercises.

Besides an unspecified internal weapon payload, each of the two fighters carried four inert, laser-guided GBU-12 bombs attached to their underwing pylons during the training sortie. The bombs were dropped on ground-based targets at the Delamere Air Weapons Range, about 120 km south of Katherine, in the Northern Territory, said the DoD. The F-35As are expected to drop more than 50 inert GBU-12 bombs during the entire exercise, the DoD added.

According to Lockheed Martin, the F-35A can carry 5,700 lb when configured only with internal weapons (‘stealth mode'), while it can carry 22,000 lb when it carries both internal and external ordnances (‘beast mode'), including both air-to-air and air-to-ground munitions...."

Photo: "An RAAF F-35A fighter aircraft takes off from RAAF Base Darwin with its payload of GBU-12 bombs during Exercise ‘Arnhem Thunder 21‘. This is the first time Australian F-35As have carried a full load of internal and external weapons. (Commonwealth of Australia, Department of Defence)" https://www.janes.com/images/default-so ... -12414.jpg
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Unread post10 Jun 2021, 15:18

Have we any photos of an F-35 in the 22,000lb all-up beast-mode configuration? I don't recall having seen any.

Have duel-ejector or triple-ejector racks been flight tested? If not, have they been scheduled for flight test?
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Unread post11 Jun 2021, 03:14

That last photo depicts 2000 pounders under the wings, correct? So that puts the entire load around 13k lbs? To get to 22,000lb, I think they are going to have to use some DERs or TERs, correct? I don't recall seeing any photos of any flight test aircraft with dual- or triple-ejector racks.

Even with GBU-28's on the inboard stations, and Mk-84 / GBU-24 / GBU-31's on the outboard stations and internal bays, that only reaches 19k with two AIM-120's and two AIM-9X's.
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Unread post11 Jun 2021, 03:46

The 22K has been discussed in other threads, let us not pollute this thread with another. The ways of adding/subtracting weight of weapons and their attachments can be wondrous indeed. I'm waiting for the NATOPS/Dash One flight manuals.
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Unread post17 Jun 2021, 12:41

F-35 Makes Inaugural Visit to RAAF Base Tindal
10 Jun 2021 Adam Thorn

"The fifth-generation fighter jet has touched down on its home base for the first time. Defence revealed the “flying visit” took place on 20 May as part of the ongoing Exercise Arnhem Thunder 21. It comes before some of the fleet take up full-time residence in Katherine, NT, in December. The visit gave personnel hands-on exposure to the ground-handling aspects of the F-35A, including security, emergency response and base aviation safety....

...The aircraft that flew into RAAF Base Tindal is also the first F-35 to be assigned to No. 75 Squadron and had the tail number 029....

...Australia took delivery of three new F-35s in March, taking its current fleet to 33."

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