First F-35 AMRAAM Release.

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Unread post23 Oct 2012, 07:29

Already done inert GBUs and have carried Paveways with the door open.

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Unread post23 Oct 2012, 08:10

Almost a Fox 3!
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Unread post23 Oct 2012, 14:33

Is there one of Marvin's rail launchers under the AMRAAM there? Was hard to tell from the video.
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Unread post23 Oct 2012, 16:15

Now just imagine for a moment, 6 slammers internally, 2 under each wing, and 2 sidewinders. I know that blows LO out the window, but for a "mop up" force behind -35s with only internal munitions...

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Unread post23 Oct 2012, 16:41

They could "borrow" the LO pods from the F-18I program and carry 12 (4 internal and 4 in each of two LO pods) while maintaining LO (not likley VLO).
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Unread post25 Oct 2012, 19:46

Interesting.
Besides falling release, does F-35 have the option to fire its internal missile from rack?
I'm wondering this, because in close dog-fight, an aircraft may not always have the position/time to drop a missile.

Also, it's difficult for missile from downward weapon bay to lock a target of upper semisphere, but I guess that can be overcome by locking after launch ability of the latest AIM-9x.
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Unread post25 Oct 2012, 19:59

All current weapons in the F-35 are forcefully ejected and do not simply "fall".

The lone exception is an internal 9x/ASRAAM which will position the rail in to the slipstream before launch.
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Unread post25 Oct 2012, 21:08

Yes, fire from rail is the answer I was looking for.
Then AIM-120 is still awkward to use in a dog-fight, if the aircraft happens to have no 9x/ASRAAM carried, a rare scenario it maybe.
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Unread post25 Oct 2012, 22:55

Why? Even inverted the AMRAAM is forced (away and to the side) into the sliptream pitched away from the F-35. The same is true for the F-22's AMRAAMs.

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Unread post25 Oct 2012, 23:29

Well, imaging during intense maneuvering, a 9X ignited from a rail would have less restriction and better opportunity to fire, while though ejected, AMRAAM would have more difficulty to separate and maintain heading towards desired direction, and take more time to ignite.

For example, if the aircraft is doing negative G maneuver, or if it is at a high AOA and the freestream air is blowing sideway towards the missile, like johnwill mentioned.
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Unread post25 Oct 2012, 23:40

An AMRAAM has more fuel to burn so even with additional maneuvering it will likely have better kinematics than a 9X.
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Unread post26 Oct 2012, 00:21

AMRAAM seems to have a thing running along one side of it that would be able to attach to a rail so it would be launched from a rail. Is that actually what that is? If so, then their decision to set up the internal AMRAAM hardpoints for ejection rather than rail launch is interesting.
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Unread post26 Oct 2012, 02:58

AMRAAMs can be setup for rail or ejection launch.

The F-22/35 chose ejection because it weighs less, is faster (less time in non-VLO mode), and costs less than an internal rail that would have to be lowered into the slipstream before firing. There is no benefit to being rail launched from an internal bay.
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Unread post21 Nov 2012, 00:57

"11/20/2012 - EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. (AFNS) -- The Joint Strike Fighter began the integration phase of weapons testing Oct. 26, when the F-35A Conventional Takeoff and Landing aircraft successfully completed the first in-flight test with an AIM-120 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile.

It was the first time a weapon communicated with the aircraft during flight using a data link.

The program's milestone rounded out a successful month of flight test for the program, which also included inert weapons separation tests of both the AMRAAM and Joint Direct Attack Munition."

"Prior to Oct. 26, mass models with no internal electronics were used during all F-35 weapons testing. The AIM-120 AMRAAM used during the integration test contained the same electronics as a full-up missile, but without the rocket motor. "

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Unread post21 Nov 2012, 01:23

Also posted here earlier (mit pic):

F-35 begins integration phase of weapons testing 20 Nov 2012

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopi ... 649a5.html
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