China unveiled 2 new higher-end UCAVs

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by gideonic » 02 Oct 2019, 09:52

1. GJ-11 “Sharp Sword” supersonic stealth UCAV
https://theaviationist.com/2019/10/01/c ... niversary/

2. WZ-8 high altitude, high speed reconnaissance drone
https://theaviationist.com/2019/10/01/c ... -analysis/

Now obviously there is the typical Communist Parade "China Stronk" vibe here. But even when taking that into consideration, these look interesting enough to warrant at least some discussion.


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by garrya » 02 Oct 2019, 09:58

IMHO, GJ-11 is a subsonic drone


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by rheonomic » 06 Oct 2019, 03:36

garrya wrote:IMHO, GJ-11 is a subsonic drone

Yeah, I'd say high subsonic.
gideonic wrote:2. WZ-8 high altitude, high speed reconnaissance drone
https://theaviationist.com/2019/10/01/c ... -analysis/

Wonder how much they got from the D-21s that went down in China.
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by milosh » 06 Oct 2019, 09:32

rheonomic wrote:
gideonic wrote:2. WZ-8 high altitude, high speed reconnaissance drone
https://theaviationist.com/2019/10/01/c ... -analysis/

Wonder how much they got from the D-21s that went down in China.


D-21 was ramjet while WZ-8 is rocket and they are very different aerodynamic designs.


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by weasel1962 » 07 Oct 2019, 09:43

GJ-11 has been discussed for many years now. First flight was year ~2013. Parade significance is only operational equipment are normally paraded i.e. operational. 2 weapons bays. Also suggested that the UCAV would be an aircraft carrier asset.


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by weasel1962 » 03 Jun 2021, 08:45

Latest pics of the 003 carrier being built in Shanghai, appear to correspond to the original 003 carrier model displayed in Beijing. That model originally had model J-20s on the deck (now apparently removed).

However, in view of the pics, I would now not be surprised if the GJ-11s form part of the CV air wing.

003 carrier.jpg


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by Corsair1963 » 03 Jun 2021, 09:37

Not to split hairs but that model has actually been around for sometime now...........


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by ricnunes » 03 Jun 2021, 11:47

weasel1962 wrote:However, in view of the pics, I would now not be surprised if the GJ-11s form part of the CV air wing.

003 carrier.jpg


The model drone seen in that model carrier (GJ-11) is basically a copy of the Northrop Grumman X-47B while the AWACS aircraft model seems clearly to be a copy of the E-2 Hawkeye. Typical from China...

Oh, and the carrier itself a copy of the Gerald Ford carrier...
“Active stealth” is what the ignorant nay sayers call EW and pretend like it’s new.


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by zhangmdev » 03 Jun 2021, 12:04

A future aircraft carrier function demonstration model is on display at the newly renovated and expanded Military Museum of the Chinese People's Revolution in Beijing on Sunday. Photo: Liu Xuanzun/GT

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1153260.shtml

J-20 performing vertical landing?

https://www.mycity-military.com/imgs4/5 ... 0nosac.jpg


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by weasel1962 » 03 Jun 2021, 12:09

Still unclear if they are going to use EMALs. The current estimate is a 1H, 2022 carrier launch.


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by madrat » 03 Jun 2021, 12:47

Is that a navalized An-32 AEW?


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by zhangmdev » 03 Jun 2021, 13:10

More likely it is An-26 based. ( JZY-01) But it is hard to believe that Y-7 can be navalized.


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by ricnunes » 03 Jun 2021, 13:54

madrat wrote:Is that a navalized An-32 AEW?

zhangmdev wrote:More likely it is An-26 based. ( JZY-01) But it is hard to believe that Y-7 can be navalized.


I don't know if I'm seeing it right but it seems to me that AEW aircraft model has a tail section (with twin tails) similar to the one found in the E-2 Hawkeye?
“Active stealth” is what the ignorant nay sayers call EW and pretend like it’s new.


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by weasel1962 » 03 Jun 2021, 14:11

KJ600 is the production model and yes, it copies the E2C frame.

An24 based probably.


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by zhangmdev » 03 Jun 2021, 15:19

So far JZY-01 is a real airframe. KJ-600 exists in drawings and models. People just use the Hawkkey as the stand-in.


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