Saab Gripen news

Brazil is planning to order another 26 Gripen E/F, to reach a total of 66 planes.

Increasing the number of Gripen jets has a high priority in Brazil. Other projects, like the A-Darter missile are being stopped or cut back.
https://www.infodefensa.com/texto-diari ... mera-parte

Brazil is planning to order another 26 Gripen E/F, to reach a total of 66 planes.

Increasing the number of Gripen jets has a high priority in Brazil. Other projects, like the A-Darter missile are being stopped or cut back.
https://www.infodefensa.com/texto-diari ... mera-parte

Another project that is being cut back in Brazil in order to get more Gripen's is it's own "flagship", the C-390 Millennium:
https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing ... 19.article
https://www.airdatanews.com/brazil-want ... ss-kc-390/
https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/em ... 49.article

As you can see, Brazil's decision to increase its Gripen order is nothing new (it's no news) and this is in great part due to the need of not only replacing the F-5's but also the AMX's (both being replaced by the Gripen) even because the Brazilian Air Force seems to have been disappointed with the AMX:
https://www.airdatanews.com/amid-budget ... -fighters/

Baptista Juniou confessed a certain disappointment with the A-1 attack aircraft (AMX), a project developed by Embraer in partnership with Italian companies that are now part of the Leonardo group. “We suffered with the AMX, because many things made for it only existed here and in Italy”, he said – the aircraft was only acquired by Brazil and Italy in the 1980s in relatively small quantities.

As you can see, Brazil's decision to increase its Gripen order is nothing new (it's no news) and this is in great part due to the need of not only replacing the F-5's but also the AMX's (both being replaced by the Gripen) even because the Brazilian Air Force seems to have been disappointed with the AMX:
https://www.airdatanews.com/amid-budget ... -fighters/

Baptista Juniou confessed a certain disappointment with the A-1 attack aircraft (AMX), a project developed by Embraer in partnership with Italian companies that are now part of the Leonardo group. “We suffered with the AMX, because many things made for it only existed here and in Italy”, he said – the aircraft was only acquired by Brazil and Italy in the 1980s in relatively small quantities.

So their answer to a small number of aircraft produced in Italy with many parts only available in Italy and only flown by Italy and Brazil is a small number of aircraft produced in Sweden with many parts only available in Sweden and only flown by Sweden and Brazil?

That checks out...

So their answer to a small number of aircraft produced in Italy with many parts only available in Italy and only flown by Italy and Brazil is a small number of aircraft produced in Sweden with many parts only available in Sweden and only flown by Sweden and Brazil?

That checks out...

Yeah, at first glance it looks so

On the other hand the Gripen E is filled with stuff manufactured by other countries such as one third (1/3) of it being British made. For example the Radar is made in Britain and Italy, the engine is made in the USA and so on...
But then again and on another hand the AMX is similar, with the engine being made in Britain, navigation systems made in Israel and so on...

So yes, you're correct!

But then again, it's Brazil so that doesn't surprise me a bit.

You fellas can bag on AMX but it was a fine plane. A-4 with an F404 would have been cheaper, but it really wasn't meant to be another A-4.

You fellas can bag on AMX but it was a fine plane. A-4 with an F404 would have been cheaper, but it really wasn't meant to be another A-4.

Nobody here is "bagging on" the AMX.

What is being "bagged on" is the Brazilian's justification to replace the AMX that the AMX is basically a two-country-only "orphan fleet" with the Gripen E when the same Gripen E is and will also be a two-country-only "orphan fleet"

Of course one can argue that the Gripen E may secure more exports but so far it has failed miserably at this and honestly I doubt that it will manage to secure another user besides Sweden and Brazil!

Brazil is planning to order another 26 Gripen E/F, to reach a total of 66 planes.

Increasing the number of Gripen jets has a high priority in Brazil. Other projects, like the A-Darter missile are being stopped or cut back.
https://www.infodefensa.com/texto-diari ... mera-parte

That must surely be the end of the A-Darter saga then? With Denel's issues ongoing and likely never to be resolved, zero missiles completed for the (tiny) South African order, unpaid salaries etc etc.

The first two operational Gripen E jets arrive in Brazil: https://www.aereo.jor.br/2022/11/29/che ... racionais/

The first two operational Gripen E jets arrive in Brazil: https://www.aereo.jor.br/2022/11/29/che ... racionais/

Operational??
These (2) Brazilian Gripens don't have Datalink and IRST!
At best they (Datalink and IRST) may/could/expected be fitted sometime during the mid of next year (and again in a best case scenario).

So, "operational" my A$$

https://sweden.postsen.com/business/amp/57452

Swedish arms giant Saab is facing a billion-dollar deal with the Philippines, Aftonbladet can reveal.
According to information from several sources with transparency, in November the Swedish state gave positive prior permission for the export of the Jas Gripen to the country.

Looks like Saab is finally going to get a sale after nearly half a decade of drought. No word from the Philippines yet but since the Gripen is the only one that meets the approved budget ($1.2 billion) while the F-16 block 70 offer is literally double at $2.4 billion. Then theres a big chance that Gripen gets the nod?

How will this affect the dynamic in the South China Sea? Well the Philippine’s core defensive doctrine is always to fight with allies, particularly the US. Having Gripens will just allow them to actually fight with US assets in the air now. Cause right now, the current fleet of F/A-50s are only cleared to fire Aim-9s, so they’re very much limited to peace time intercepts.
The Gripen will add much needed BVR capability and much improved WVR capabilities too (with the Cobra HMD).

Maybe, but the Philippines has back out of so many imminent fighter deals in my life time alone. Hornets in the 90s, vipers in the 2000s, the FA-50. It’s possible but who knows. Interestingly back in March an article in Nikkei Asia implied Japan was offering fighter jets as part of their deal to sell destroyers to the Philippines, implying the F-2. The argument being the Philippines being an archipelago like Japan is a good fit for the type. I’m sure nothing will come of it but fascinating.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/co ... ilippines/

Nah, the problem with the F-16 isn’t really the cost of the platform but the cost of the nearly non existent modern fighter infrastructure needed to keep it operational. The Philippines is currently on a 3 part modernization program called Horizons.

The F/A-50 was part of Horizon 1, basically just to get them back into the jet age.
The Gripen/F-16 deal is is part of Horizon 2, which is basically a transition fighter to relearn and develop modern fighter operational procedures and tactics.

Its Horizon 3 (2023 to 2028) which will really be their primary fighter acquisitions program. Primary early contenders for that are the KF-21, Rafale, F/A-18E, Typhoon and maybe just maybe F-35A

Going back, the Gripen is pretty subpar for a primary fighter specially in the numbers that they want. Local defense enthusiasts there simulate what a squadron of Gripens can do against a Squadron of J-11Bs using Command CMO (retail version) the Gripens usually wins which coincides nicely with Thai exercises with China where their Gripens usually win the BVR battle agaonst the Flankers. Here is China’s assessment on the Gripen vs J-11 respectively

But China isn’t going to send just one squadron, so they’ll need to either, buy a lot more Gripens or buy something that will achieve overkill exchange ratios against China’s fighters….F-35 ehem ehem