
Corsair1963 wrote:disconnectedradical wrote:Corsair1963 wrote:You will "never" be able to upgrade the F-22 to the same level of the F-35 in many respects. Honestly, this has been discussed at length more than once.
We're not talking strike, or air to ground. This is air to air. Give evidence that F-22 can't be upgraded to same level as F-35 for air to air.
The infrared sensors for one. Hell, the cockpit couldn't use the existing F-35 Helmet. Because it wouldn't fit the pilot within the cockpit. So, a compromise had to be found....
Overall the F-35 has much better Sensor Fusion and always will....
BTW - You never answered my question on what threat the F-22 could counter but the F-35 could not???
Your fanboying of F-35 is ridiculous. And besides, "countering" is not a simple yes/no, in counter air like OCA/DCA F-22 will be more effective.
I said it again and again, funding for F-22 upgrades includes a "multispectral" sensor, very likely IRST, and helmet mounted display.
https://www.ang.af.mil/Portals/77/docum ... 122634-043
page 81:
"ANG F-22s require a multi-spectral sensor upgrade. The current sensor suite is
optimized to search, detect, track, identify, engage, and survive against threats operating within a
specific band of the radio frequency spectrum. A multi-spectral sensor system exploits a target’s
signature across the entire electromagnetic spectrum, providing alternative means outside the
currently exploited spectrum to detect and track adversaries. Multi-spectral systems provide
alternatives that are less susceptible to electronic attack or other advanced sensor
countermeasures. The F-22 needs to implement out-of-band multi-spectral sensor suites to
increase lethality and survivability against peer and emerging threats. A multi-spectral sensor
capability, combined with the current F-22 sensor suite, will allow the F-22 to maintain an
advantage over peer adversaries. All 20 ANG F-22s require this upgrade."
page 83
"ANG F-22 pilots require a night vision compatible, color, helmet-mounted
display (HMD). Multiple simulations and an operational utility assessment conducted by the
422nd Test and Evaluation Squadron demonstrated that using an HMD provides a distinct firstshot, first-kill advantage. Although this advantage applies primarily to within-visual-range
engagements, the HMD also substantially increases situational awareness during beyond-visualrange intercepts. HMD technology provides the capability to cue and verify off-boresight sensor
and weapon information through the display of weapons employment zones and visual cues of
target and friendly aircraft locations. Originally conceived as a weapons cueing system, the HMD
has evolved into a force multiplier because of its ability to enhance situational awareness during
all phases of flight and across all mission sets. For example, the HMD provides threat
information visual cues while the pilot is "eyes-out" of the cockpit, warning of dangers and
providing critical information to allow the pilot to maneuver the aircraft away from terrain or
threats. Similarly, F-22s tasked with identifying targets of interest during homeland defense
missions would be better able to quickly and efficiently visually locate and identify small aircraft
or unmanned systems. Lack of an HMD limits the lethality of the F-22, and puts the aircraft at a
disadvantage in certain situations against less formidable and capable aircraft. The acquisition of
an HMD for each ANG F-22 pilot will greatly increase the lethality and survivability of the F-22."