eloise wrote:but the same is also true for F-23EMD vs YF-23, most notable change is the DSI
See thats the problem with the F-23, because it was never built, supporters can imagine it to be as perfect as they want it to be.
Because the F-22 got stealthier, we assume the F-23 will also get stealthier
Because the F-22 got faster some people assume the F-23 will as well.
To be fair, maybe it will, but then again maybe it won't.
What I do when comparing the F-22 to the hypothetical F-23 is imagine the YF-23 as it was (possibly lengthened) , plus RAM, plus the avionics, sticking as close to the YF-23 prototype as possible.
eloise wrote: If you scale down B-2 to F-22 size, it will be more stealthy.
Thats true, but the YF-23 is also physically larger than the F-22, the F-23EMD is even larger and much longer, Personally I think it will still achieve the -40 db ballpark, on most angles. It may be a little better, -45 or -50 perhaps but I really don't think it will be much better. -60 db is pushing it.
eloise wrote:Main advantage of tailless design is the side view RCS, which you don't have any number.
But the F-23 isn't tailess, IIRC it has the largest tails ever fitted into a fighter. when that moves, just imagine the spike in RCS,
eloise wrote:but you shouldn't let your preference get in the way. This is getting to the point that you are very quickly accept positive claims of F-22 and overly defensive and deny any claims about anything better than the F-22.
I don't deny that, but to be fair its the same as the bias towards the F-35 a lot of people here show. There was a time it got so bad that people were actually saying it was better than the Raptor in A-A. Scorpion1Alpha has a long rant against them.
Kidding aside, I know I have a bias towards the Raptor, but I'm trying to be as objective as possible. Please extend more patience with me regarding this fact.
eloise wrote:If you can understand that F-22 is more maneuver thanks to more control surface then you should also understand the reduction of control surface (lead to gaps and corner) will make F-23 stealthier
Yeah but, again its bigger and those tails, once they move....
