F-22 Database and photo thread

Not all that factually accurate but this is funny

Still the best looking girl their is in the air.

https://theaviationist.com/2022/07/27/f ... to-poland/

Through the years I've seen nearly all flavors of the teen series do their display. And without doubt the F-22 blows their doors off. Even the old J79-15 Phantoms, in my opinion, were more impressive than the teens. Obviously not in terms of agility, but sound and noise. The Raptor display combines awesome maneuverability and loudness; even their standard pattern work is impressive. Had a F-35 in the pattern a few days ago, pretty cool too. Seemed a little louder than a GE powered Viper.



Some Raptor stuff.

F-22 high alpha pass.mp4 [ 716.96 KiB | Viewed 728 times ]

F-22 base to final.mp4 [ 623.15 KiB | Viewed 728 times ]

Yes, the Raptor is awesome particularly in its sustained climb and acceleration (airshow perspective). I'll tell you what is a noisy engine, at least to me, is the Pratt & Whitney -229 engine. That thing makes a racket!

Yes, the Raptor is awesome particularly in its sustained climb and acceleration (airshow perspective). I'll tell you what is a noisy engine, at least to me, is the Pratt & Whitney -229 engine. That thing makes a racket!

Engine noise is related to the amount of airflow and exhaust velocity, which is driven by engine pressure ratio and exhaust temperature (way higher in AB):
F100-220. 228 pps / 3.0 EPR
F110-100. 265 pps / 3.0 EPR
F100-229. 250 pps / 3.4 EPR, upmatched to 3.6 at Max AB
F110-129. 270 pps / 3.2 EPR
F119. More. /. Higher than -229
F135. More than F119 / similar to F119

Interesting that in fleet usage the F-22 is typically quieter than F-15/F-16 because 95% of takeoffs are made at Mil power - no need for AB. But the really loud one on takeoff is the B-1, with four F101 engines (350 pps airflow) in max AB, setting off every car alarm down the flight line as it passes down the runway and continuing for many minutes during climb out down range.

A B-1 re engined with used PW F119s from "retired" F-22A block 20s or used F-135s from re engined F-35As (XA100, XA101) would make an awesome sound. Except it would probably be quieter during take off because, as you say, they probably wouldn't need to use AB any more with so much dry thrust available.

Better yet would be to put brand new XA100 or XA101s in a B-1 to test them out instead of flying them first in a single engine jet.

A B-1 re engined with used PW F119s from "retired" F-22A block 20s or used F-135s from re engined F-35As (XA100, XA101) would make an awesome sound. Except it would probably be quieter during take off because, as you say, they probably wouldn't need to use AB any more with so much dry thrust available.

Better yet would be to put brand new XA100 or XA101s in a B-1 to test them out instead of flying them first in a single engine jet.

Sorry, they wouldn't use surplus F119s. Like they have any to spare to begin with.....While, I doubt F135s, XA100s, or XA101s would even fit the B-1s.

(just saying)

As stated by USAF leadership the F-22 eventual retirement is depended on the progress of the NGAD NOT by future block versions of the F-35. No one here or in the public sphere knows the NGADs timeline and or progress. F-22 is 5th gernation air dominance platform, F-35 IS NOT. Please do not go ruining this F-22 thread with your usual "F-35 is the bestest at everything" fanboyism.

Please do not go ruining this F-22 thread with your usual "F-35 is the bestest at everything" fanboyism.

Don't worry, I'm not going to let him.