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F-16 and JF-17

Unread postPosted: 18 Dec 2019, 09:56
by usnimitz
Now Pakistan is making JF-17 thunder fighter jets. I saw the video where a JF-17 came flying leveled to the ground and then it went straight up like a rocket and disappeared in the skies. That could have been Mach 2 speed.

Pakistan has 3 variants of JF-17 jets which are made with the help of Chinese technology. I would say JF-17 have a different design than fighter jets made by USA, Russia and Europe.

Is JF-17 a replacement for F-16 now that many countries have the technology to make fighter jets.

Re: F-16 and JF-17

Unread postPosted: 18 Dec 2019, 18:37
by basher54321
Don't know much about it but on the face of it looks more like the F-CK-1, or the F-5 because it seems to be smaller / lighter with less hard-points.

Most sources give a top level speed of Mach 1.6 / 700 Kts which would presumably only happen above 35,000ft without any pylons (at a guess). Sea level speed would be somewhere below M1.2 typically.

Was powered by a variant of the MiG-29s RD-33 but they might be moving to a Chinese engine for newer blocks.

The US have prevented sales of F-16s to Pakistan in the past several times so it could be their way of getting around that - until they annoy China somehow of course.

For countries denied F-16V Block 70/72 for whatever reason it could be a budget alternative maybe.


http://www.jf-17.com/specifications/

Re: F-16 and JF-17

Unread postPosted: 20 Dec 2019, 03:02
by rheonomic
Best way to think of JF-17 is a MiG-21 for the modern age...

Re: F-16 and JF-17

Unread postPosted: 20 Dec 2019, 15:22
by usnimitz
rheonomic wrote:Best way to think of JF-17 is a MiG-21 for the modern age...


So why are the making JF-17, Tejas LCA etc.. when 'Made in Asia" fighter jets cannot match F-16s.

Re: F-16 and JF-17

Unread postPosted: 20 Dec 2019, 18:47
by Shimud
usnimitz wrote:
rheonomic wrote:Best way to think of JF-17 is a MiG-21 for the modern age...


So why are the making JF-17, Tejas LCA etc.. when 'Made in Asia" fighter jets cannot match F-16s.


It fits their interim needs for a platform to replace their ageing 60s and 70s era platforms.
In parallel, both of them are working on programs for FGFA.

Re: F-16 and JF-17

Unread postPosted: 30 Dec 2019, 09:59
by jedit
usnimitz wrote:Now Pakistan is making JF-17 thunder fighter jets. I saw the video where a JF-17 came flying leveled to the ground and then it went straight up like a rocket and disappeared in the skies. That could have been Mach 2 speed.

Pakistan has 3 variants of JF-17 jets which are made with the help of Chinese technology. I would say JF-17 have a different design than fighter jets made by USA, Russia and Europe.

Is JF-17 a replacement for F-16 now that many countries have the technology to make fighter jets.


You join on 14th Dec and start a new thread about a topic that already has this thread below.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2554&start=60

Did you really read the forum rules. Also, no jet goes Mach 2 vertically, you really need to go read a bit about air craft, how jets work and then come back. In the meanwhile, I would request mods to merge this new thread in the old one linked above.

Re: F-16 and JF-17

Unread postPosted: 13 Jan 2020, 15:14
by gta4
https://hushkit.net/2019/07/19/flying-f ... ter-pilot/

Check this guy's comments on WVR fight in an JF17 against a F-16.

JF-17 with PL-10 mod (currently in pipeline) will trump F-16 with AIM-9M any day of the week, but currently on brute performance F-16 has the edge.

Which aircraft have you flown DACT against- which was the most challenging and why?

“DACT : F-16 Block-52+ , Mirage, F:7P.

Re: F-16 and JF-17

Unread postPosted: 13 Jan 2020, 15:34
by Asif
Locked as this seems to be duplication