Norwegian F-35As take up QRA duties in Iceland

krorvik · by **krorvik** » 09 Mar 2020, 07:15

https://twitter.com/breakingavnews/stat ... 2082644992

Video taken from russian Bear. RNoAF F-35s already lining up with Bears and Foxhounds in the north sea. Also showing RNoAF F-16s and Typhoons from the RAF. And a nice view from a Bear in refuel position.

krorvik · by **krorvik** » 09 Mar 2020, 10:40

More from the barents observer:

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/secur ... b-aircraft

doge · by **doge** » 09 Mar 2020, 11:47

krorvik wrote:https://twitter.com/breakingavnews/status/1236605752082644992
Video taken from russian Bear. RNoAF F-35s already lining up with Bears and Foxhounds in the north sea. Also showing RNoAF F-16s and Typhoons from the RAF. And a nice view from a Bear in refuel position.

Gums · by **Gums** » 09 Mar 2020, 14:54

Salute!

Good to see "operational" missions by the Nowegians.

Secondly, I had not seen their model with the drag chute hump, if my assumption is correct about the hump.

Third, no mystery why the Bears are coming down. Hope the Stubbies had their radar turned off and made the intercept using their other sensors. Back in the 60's, we were not to use our "fast" frequency hopping capability on the VooDoo and 106 radars when certain satellites were overhead. That hydraulically-tuned maggie moved our system hundreds of mHz between pulses, so was a few decades ahead of the pure electronic frequency hopping. At the time, the solid state stuff couldn't operate up in the gigahertz regime. A Buff EWO at Grand Forks said that all he saw was noise a few dB above normal background ( we practiced against them when their missions allowed it).

Gums sends...

krorvik · by **krorvik** » 09 Mar 2020, 15:12

Gums wrote:Hope the Stubbies had their radar turned off and made the intercept using their other sensors.

Most likely, good chance the F-16's from Bodø handed off somewhere along our coastline - and the Tiffies took over further south (Edit: somewhere off Bergen if sources are correct). Those bears will be well visible to Sørreisa CRC too.

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 09 Mar 2020, 15:58

Cropped clip from the video Tu-142 & RNoAF F-35A : https://twitter.com/breakingavnews/stat ... 2082644992

mor10 · by **mor10** » 09 Mar 2020, 17:13

Here is a YouTube video from the QRA in Iceland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hFNv2v3Q8w&fbclid=IwAR2MgqIVg9TL_mgtYnecMbLez2_eduoLt6Am9d9oQT3EzPDqRrM9HWazJ88

krorvik · by **krorvik** » 09 Mar 2020, 17:48

Ooooh. Lovely - thanks for posting!

mor10 · by **mor10** » 09 Mar 2020, 17:59

Gums wrote:Secondly, I had not seen their model with the drag chute hump, if my assumption is correct about the hump.

Affirmative, Sir

pushoksti · by **pushoksti** » 09 Mar 2020, 20:16

lamoey wrote:Here is a YouTube video from the QRA in Iceland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hFNv2v3Q8w&fbclid=IwAR2MgqIVg9TL_mgtYnecMbLez2_eduoLt6Am9d9oQT3EzPDqRrM9HWazJ88

Ah those concrete HAZ's bring back memories, run-ups in them would rattle your teeth.

eagle3000 · by **eagle3000** » 09 Mar 2020, 20:28

lamoey wrote:Here is a YouTube video from the QRA in Iceland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hFNv2v3Q8w&fbclid=IwAR2MgqIVg9TL_mgtYnecMbLez2_eduoLt6Am9d9oQT3EzPDqRrM9HWazJ88

25 seconds, weapon bays are in view. Pretty sure they "only" carry 2 AIM-120 in there.

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 09 Mar 2020, 22:30

Just because the LONG URL annoys me but thanks for the snowscape video. WOW! Same video posted above by 'lamoey'.

Norway Sends F-35 Lightning II Fighter Jets To Iceland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hFNv2v3Q8w

krorvik · by **krorvik** » 10 Mar 2020, 17:38

More goodies, this time from flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nato/sets ... 424330352/

Great hires shots, can almost feel the cold creeping through the monitor.

Gums · by **Gums** » 11 Mar 2020, 04:30

Salute!

Any reports from the folks flying those things on icey runways?

The Norwegian Viper classmates I had back in late 1979 told us that their tests with the drag chute was what was suspected. With any kind of crosswind, the plane would weathervane and keeping it on the runway could be a challenge some days.

I only used the chute on the VooDoo, as our normal approach and touch speed was over 150 knots, sometimes 175+ depending on gas. The chute and aero braking let us land comfortably on a 9,000 foot rwy ( whatever NATO standard was). With a good headwind, didn't even need brakes to turn off the far end.

Gums sends...

hornetfinn · by **hornetfinn** » 11 Mar 2020, 09:23

Gums wrote:Any reports from the folks flying those things on icey runways?

Not many that I know of, but here is something: https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... e-of-gear/

“That said, our experience operating the F-35 on slippery airfields is that it’s more safe and easier than with the F-16s,” she added. “With the stability of the [F-35] aircraft, it’s easier to take off and land on slippery airfields. … It’s performing extremely well.”

“The performance of the aircraft — in general and in Norwegian conditions specifically — is more than expected. It’s an incredible capability. It performs extremely well in cold weather and the sensor capability and fusion is remarkable also when it comes to our challenging environment with the geography, topography and distance,” she said.

video has also been posted before, although not necessarily icy conditions:
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