F-35 and Airshows

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Unread post13 Dec 2020, 00:48

energo wrote:
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mpkopack wrote:Are you really trying to compare the turning capability of different aircraft based on what they do in airshows? Seriously? You know they're literally just "shows" right?


A minimum radius turn is the same whether it's an air show or combat, isn't it? Isn't an air show display meant to show an aircraft's basic capabilities?
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Unread post13 Dec 2020, 03:15

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Unread post13 Dec 2020, 06:44

On a practical note, what's the minimum level turn radius of a combat loaded F-16C at 45,000 ft?

I'm betting F-35A with internal everything kicks its obsolete a$$ into another dimension.
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Unread post14 Dec 2020, 02:51

I would suggest use actual data, instead of airshow stopwatch timer

F-35 demo manual: "Entering the turn at 380 knots and the jet may still accelerate under 7.5G pull. Modulate thrust."
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(fuel load: normally 18300 lbs full fuel, under the worst condition no less than 12000 lbs: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=57359
(feel free to compare it with E-M charts of other jets. A lightly loaded Su-27 (18920kg flying weight) sustains at 7.2G under the same condition)
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Unread post24 Dec 2020, 15:05

LAKELAND, Fla. Sun N' Fun Holiday 2020 Airshow. 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c-VDpQfBT0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaXrK3e0Csk





DEMO in the snowfield. Wow. :shock: CooL Location.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bclj1HYUImI
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Unread post17 Jan 2021, 00:27

'muc-spotter' posted an UK RIAT 2016 F-35B Display video here: viewtopic.php?f=63&t=57636&view=unread#unread
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Unread post17 Jan 2021, 01:32

RIAT...

Five years later?? Ygbsm.
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Unread post18 Jan 2021, 03:04

'LAKELAND, Fla. Sun N' Fun Holiday 2020 Airshow.'

So "Stubby" or "Tubby" climbs like an Eagle...has high alpha like a Super Hornet...sustained turn approaching a Block 50...and sounds like a Raptor. Awesome. In the first video, the sound quality, in my humble opinion, is very good. Turning up the volume a little, you can hear just how loud the F-35A is, in full afterburner..
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Unread post11 Feb 2021, 10:54

I wouldn't get excited yet........
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Unread post17 Feb 2021, 20:51

Education or Operational: F-35 Demo Team showcases combat capabilities
16 Feb 2021 Capt. Kip Sumner, F-35 Demonstration Team Public Affairs

"Hill Air Force Base, Utah -- For most, seeing the F-35 demonstration team at an air show is the closest that they’ll come to seeing the Air Force’s newest 5th-generation stealth fighter, both in the air and on the ground.

Many people may see military performances at air shows primarily as entertainment, and think of the Air Force’s own Thunderbirds or the Navy’s Blue Angels; however, single-ship jet teams like the F-35 Demo Team have another primary mission. To showcase the operational mission of some of the Air Force’s premiere combat aircraft.

“Our jets come straight off the flight line from the combat-ready squadrons at the 388th Fighter Wing,” said Capt. Kristin “BEO” Wolfe, the F-35 Demonstration Team commander and pilot. “If we had to go to war, we wouldn’t have to modify the jet at all. The aircraft we bring to air shows could either have been to or just recently come back from an operation overseas.”

This is the second year that the F-35 Demo Team has operated as part of the 388th Fighter Wing at Hill Air Force Base, Utah. After moving from Air Education and Training Command to Air Combat Command, the demonstration team is now made up of operational Airmen and F-35As from the wing. The Fighter Wing currently has an inventory of 78 F-35s, with the team bringing two of those aircraft to each show they perform at.

The team’s goal while performing at air shows is to educate the public on the F-35A and the Air Force’s combat capabilities.

“We designed the routine specifically to showcase the maximum maneuvering capabilities of the F-35,” Wolfe said. “We showcase a lot of maneuvers that we would potentially use in a combat situation, replicating things we might do in a dogfight or ‘basic fighter maneuvers’.”

When not flying at air shows across the world or practicing at their home-base, the team’s mission is the same as many of the Airmen in the 388th, to be ready to deploy at a moment’s notice. The maintainers on the team are responsible for performing maintenance and routine inspections on operational aircraft while Capt. Wolfe flies as an F-35 instructor pilot for the 34th Fighter Squadron.

“When we’re not practicing the demonstration, we’re doing very similar things to what we would normally do on an operational flight line,” she said. “As an instructor pilot, my job is to mentor new pilots that have just come out of training, teaching them the latest tactics and procedures they need to be considered ‘combat-ready’.”

And when she’s not busy training new pilots, Capt. Wolfe is also making sure she stays combat-capable by flying training missions with her home squadron.

“When I’m flying the demonstration, I’m trying to show people just a small example of what the jet is capable of doing,” Wolfe said. “But when I’m flying with the Fighter Wing, I’m doing a variety of different missions; including basic surface attack, dropping inert or simulated weapons, practicing strafing runs, etc. I’m really training to do a lot of different combat capabilities that we obviously can’t showcase at an air show.”

The F-35A is the Air Force’s newest stealth fighter but that doesn’t mean it hasn’t been tried and tested. The 388th Fighter Wing is the Air Force’s first combat-ready F-35 wing, declaring full war-fighting capability in January of 2020. As of January 2021, each of the wing’s three operational squadrons has completed a deployment overseas.

“We’re trying to show people that this isn’t just an experimental concept, that this is a real aircraft that we are taking to war,” Wolfe said. “So to have the demonstration team as part of the first combat F-35 wing and Air Combat Command just makes sense.”"

Photo: "U.S. Air Force Capt. Kristin "BEO" Wolfe, F-35 Lightning II Demonstration Team commander and pilot, performs the "dedication pass" maneuver at the 2020 Fort Lauderdale Air Show Nov. 22, 2020, Fort Lauderdale, Florida. During this maneuver, the jet flies at approximately .95 mach, which is just below the speed of sound, and is designed to give the audience the best profile-view of the jet. (U.S. Air Force photo by Capt. Kip Sumner)" https://media.defense.gov/2021/Feb/12/2 ... 5-1015.JPG (1.9Mb) [zoom/crop version here: viewtopic.php?f=63&t=54256&p=450016&hilit=Wolfe#p450016


Source: https://www.acc.af.mil/News/Article-Dis ... abilities/
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Unread post20 Feb 2021, 06:02

Lightning DEMO [4 page PDF attached]
Jun 2020 REPORT AND PHOTOS Rob van Disseldorp

“Combat Aircraft Journal meets Capt Kristin ‘BEO’ Wolfe, the 2020 US Air Force F-35A demonstration team pilot.....

...F-35 vs F-22
Flying both of the USAF’s most advanced fighters have given Capt Wolfe a unique insight into fifth-generation technology. Comparing the two, she said: ‘Both aircraft rely heavily on stealth during certain mission sets, which makes their tactics very similar and compatible. Obviously, to maintain a stealthy profile, all of the sensors and avionics on both jets are mounted internally and feed information to the pilot via sensor fusion, which makes it much easier [for the pilot] to interpret and make decisions faster. The F-35 does have a much newer avionics suite, but both jets continue to get software and hardware upgrades.

‘With regard to maneuvering, the F-22 has the added benefit of larger control surfaces and thrust-vectoring, which definitely makes a difference, particularly at slow-speed.’ Asked to pick a favorite aircraft, ‘BEO’ says: ‘There is no denying that the F-22 is an amazing aircraft with an abundance of power and control. It was a blast to fly, but I must say I have really enjoyed my time in the F-35. The aircraft is noticeably newer with improved technology and the missions are extremely rewarding. Not to mention the community is so broad and growing that it’s awesome to feel a part of something revolutionary.’...

...During Combat Aircraft Journal’s visit to Hill AFB, ‘BEO’ flew a full 18-minute demonstration in front of the beautiful backdrop of the nearby Wasatch Mountains. Her routine commences with a maximum power take-off, followed by a ‘high alpha half Cuban eight’. Other maneuvers include a pass with the weapon bay doors open, slow and high-speed passes, and a minimum radius turn. The demonstration also features several moves that show off unique F-35A handling characteristics. The Demo Team commander explained: ‘The ‘Pedal Turn’ [yaw without thrust-vectoring] and the ‘Tac Pitch’ are always crowd-pleasers, as we showcase the high angle-of-attack maneuvering and nose authority we can generate courtesy of the fly-by-wire flight control system.’ She added that her favorite maneuver of the show is the ‘Inverted-to-Inverted’ pass: ‘It’s always a thrill to hold inverted flight just a few hundred feet above the ground,’ she smiled...."

Source: Combat Aircraft Journal June 2020 Volume 21 No 6
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Unread post05 Mar 2021, 22:18

Air Show Season Coming Again. 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQIBnT0xokc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfxIftRp5DY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhYct-3_Rd4




Shooting Camera mounted on top of the Cockpit Panoramic Display. 8)
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Unread post12 Mar 2021, 02:26

Heritage Flight Training at Davis-Monthan AFB March 2021. 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKhj-oRqfXw


RAAF Temora Aviation Museum AirShow 2021. 8) (The F-35 will be available from @3:45~.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW10Lq8vtg0
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