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F-35B and internal AAMs?

Unread postPosted: 07 May 2013, 07:04
by Corsair1963
We heard that later blocks of F-35 will carry 6 internal AAMs. Yet, does that also include the F-35B will its smaller weapons bay?

RE: F-35B and internal AAMs?

Unread postPosted: 07 May 2013, 12:34
by delvo

Unread postPosted: 07 May 2013, 15:21
by willhan
Yes.

Here's a screenshot from a LM Video.

It has Lift fan,roll control nozzles,and no tail hook, obviously B model.

Unread postPosted: 07 May 2013, 23:08
by count_to_10
Good catch. I hadn't noticed, but there is the lift fan.

Unread postPosted: 08 May 2013, 00:57
by Corsair1963
Yeah, I don't see the "Lift Fan" either?

Unread postPosted: 08 May 2013, 01:09
by count_to_10
Corsair1963 wrote:Yeah, I don't see the "Lift Fan" either?

Look just in front of the tips of the missiles. You can see the vanes for the lift fan, as well as where the tuboshaft enters the fan housing.

Unread postPosted: 08 May 2013, 02:12
by delvo
Could you be getting thrown by the fact that the bottom of it is square, not round?

Unread postPosted: 08 May 2013, 02:31
by weasel1962
Can't ignore the roll posts. The other 2 variants don't have that.

Unread postPosted: 08 May 2013, 04:10
by Corsair1963
Well, looks like we need another source to confirm it?

Unread postPosted: 08 May 2013, 04:39
by delvo
Confirm what? That the GCI image of an F-35B, found in a Lock-Mart video, actually came from Lock-Mart?

Unread postPosted: 08 May 2013, 20:57
by battleshipagincourt
While we're on this issue, does anyone know if the F-35 is expected to eventually carry internal AIM-9's? I know that it's limited only to the external hardpoints, but have they seriously considered mounting them internally for later block releases?

Unread postPosted: 08 May 2013, 23:45
by count_to_10
battleshipagincourt wrote:While we're on this issue, does anyone know if the F-35 is expected to eventually carry internal AIM-9's? I know that it's limited only to the external hardpoints, but have they seriously considered mounting them internally for later block releases?

There are diagrams floating around of a trapeze set up that fits on the AtG hardpoint that moves the AIM-9 into the air stream. I don't really know if it is supposed to handle more than one, but I've only ever seen it with a single sidewinder.

Unread postPosted: 13 May 2013, 18:03
by aaam
I can't remember the source, but I did read documents that stated, given development of the launcher, that the F-35 A&C could carry eight AIM-120s internally, with the B carrying six. Had the JDRADM not be canceled, it went on to state that the F0-35 would be able to carry twice as many of them as could the F-22. This is because of the volume and shape of the F-35's weapons bays.

I also believe that the UK has a requirement to be able to carry ASRAAM internally, so that should indicate that it would be possible to do AIM-9 if someone wanted. . I believe Meteor is also scheduled for the F-35. Not sure if that missile would fit comfortably inside a Raptor, but since the chances of USAF acquiring it are well below slim, I doubt if anyone's seriously looked at it.

Unread postPosted: 13 May 2013, 20:45
by spazsinbad
Italy and the F-35: The Program, the FACO and The Coming of the Meteor Missile 03 May 2013
"...RID: Sure, a big help could come from the integration on the aircraft of European armaments?

Gen.Debertolis: Absolutely yes. The fact that we can integrate the F-35 with non-US armaments would allow us to enter the aircraft’s heart itself.

Regarding this, the UK has already started to study METEOR’s integration and asked us to create a joint program with this main purpose. We are evaluating this opportunity and, above all, its costs. It’s an important investment, around €100 million euros per country….. 1

With the block four decision for software development of the F-35 to include the Meteor missile on the aircraft, the UK and Italian engagement with the F-35B club could lay a foundation for the other members as well. The Meteor also provides another advantage for the Italians who will operate both Eurofighters and F-35s.

The Meteor missile will be able to operate off of both platforms, providing a basis for anticipating the weapons carrying role for a very capable role for a non-stealth enabled aircraft in the years ahead...."

http://www.sldinfo.com/italy-and-the-f- ... r-missile/

Unread postPosted: 14 May 2013, 04:28
by Corsair1963
spazsinbad wrote:Italy and the F-35: The Program, the FACO and The Coming of the Meteor Missile 03 May 2013
"...RID: Sure, a big help could come from the integration on the aircraft of European armaments?

Gen.Debertolis: Absolutely yes. The fact that we can integrate the F-35 with non-US armaments would allow us to enter the aircraft’s heart itself.

Regarding this, the UK has already started to study METEOR’s integration and asked us to create a joint program with this main purpose. We are evaluating this opportunity and, above all, its costs. It’s an important investment, around €100 million euros per country….. 1

With the block four decision for software development of the F-35 to include the Meteor missile on the aircraft, the UK and Italian engagement with the F-35B club could lay a foundation for the other members as well. The Meteor also provides another advantage for the Italians who will operate both Eurofighters and F-35s.

The Meteor missile will be able to operate off of both platforms, providing a basis for anticipating the weapons carrying role for a very capable role for a non-stealth enabled aircraft in the years ahead...."

http://www.sldinfo.com/italy-and-the-f- ... r-missile/



Yeah, another area often overlooked by the F-35 critics. Is all of the weapons likely to be intergraded with the Lightning. Giving future customers a long list of options! :D