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Posted: Feb 02, 2004 - 06:50 AM
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habu2 wrote:
usenet newsgroup rec. aviation. military, not worth visiting nowadays
Forums like this are so much better, even before RAM went to h*ll...
I'm not part of any of those forums anymore. I'm also somewhat still a part of the yahoo groups. But their technology and format is loooong overdue for overhaul. If they went to php, like these boards, it would be so much better. Glad to know I'm not missing anything. |
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Posted: Feb 03, 2004 - 12:45 AM
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Posted: Feb 03, 2004 - 02:45 AM
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I gave up on RAM and other similar news groups when we had the Bosnia conflict. There was too much crap with people arguing on both sides, and not enough real info.
Some great people on that list, but lots of... er... other people too.
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Posted: Feb 03, 2004 - 03:13 AM
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| What's so funny about that TM Zipper? |
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Posted: Feb 03, 2004 - 04:46 AM
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Gums,
What ya think... A couple of fast movers! |
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Posted: Feb 03, 2004 - 04:58 AM
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Habu wrote:
What's so funny about that TM Zipper?
Its like taking a nice caddy and pimping it out. All it needs is fuzzy dice.
Cool photos JR !!! |
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Posted: Feb 03, 2004 - 05:24 AM
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Awwwwwwww maaaaaaaan!
This dude JR really knows how to drive a knife in your throat, stand on your chest, then really hurt you!
I know, I know, I know.......... we could only pull 3 gees at 350 knots IAS.
OTOH, I will still win the bet about who could get faster to 10,000 feet from a standing start.
And a big clue is: " the answer ain't the Viper, or Zipper".
For all the young sprogs out there who didn't enjoy the oppo to drive 'muscle cars' back in the '60's.
Imagine a '68 GTO that could get to 60 mph in about 4 or 5 seconds while still in second gear.
I once pushed the peddle when some yeahoo ran a red light and I was in his crosshairs. Never shifted from first gear and was at 55 mph in about 3 seconds. Was in a '69 Cougar, 351 cu inches, four barrel carb (Holley) - that sucker was downright dangerous if you drank too much at happy hour.
I remember a rule that we should use mil power when the AB takeoff distance was less than 2000 feet ( 50,000 pound jet).
I remember getting to 30,000 feet in about two minutes from a standing start on some cold nights in North Dakota. Those were the days my friends.......
The climb rate of some of those dinosaurs is still competitive. Ask JR.
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Posted: Feb 03, 2004 - 05:52 AM
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| 60's muscle cars. Good comparison. |
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Posted: Feb 03, 2004 - 06:41 AM
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OTOH, I will still win the bet about who could get faster to 10,000 feet from a standing start.
And a big clue is: " the answer ain't the Viper, or Zipper".
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Posted: Feb 03, 2004 - 09:48 AM
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Posted: Feb 03, 2004 - 07:09 PM
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Yo! JR!!!!
here's Gums with Steve. Airshow a few years back at Eglin.
we flew togehter at 'pilot indoctrination' training in '63. reese AFB. A few others from our class pic then has others who went on to some degree of success. Some wound up splattered in the jungle in late 60's.
Our class at the Zoo had the first ace (pilot) and most POW's. Timing is everything. |
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Posted: Feb 04, 2004 - 04:54 AM
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Hey Gums,
That's the guy with five Mig-21s, you got it Gums!
Check out his new project at http://www.avtechgroup.com
You can't even raise your voice at the Zoo anymore... You might
hurt someone's feeling. "What are we training, warriors or puss!#$?",
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Posted: Feb 04, 2004 - 06:33 AM
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| Great photo Gums. Richies cool but I'll put my money on you and JR LOL. |
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Posted: Feb 04, 2004 - 06:35 AM
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| Hey guys, what kind of cameras did the reece version of the F-104 use? Any known user feedback from the recce users? Seems like goin fast like that it could do some great picture taking . |
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Posted: Feb 05, 2004 - 03:24 AM
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Elp,
Thanks, I haven’t had an opportunity to fight Steve, but he owes me a cold one from a coin check!
Reece, unarmed and unafraid… No freaking thank you, take a perfectly good fighter and defang her? Sorry dude, your just making me wanna cry and ignore the flashing slow light!
From what I could find the Canadian Recce 104 used a “Vicom photo-reconnaissance pod” and the RF-104G used three KS-67A cameras mounted in the forward fuselage, although the aircraft for Holland's Koninklijke Luchtmacht had their cameras carried in an external ventral camera pack like the CF model.
I’ve attached pics of our CF-104 single seater carrying the pod back in her active service, recce, days… |
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