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Vipernice
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 Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 05:40 PM
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duplex wrote:
The UK should immediately start working on a navalized Typhoon or simply buy the French Rafale . The third best alternative would be the Super Hornet.
Otherwise, these two new QE class carriers which cost UK taxpayers a fortune , won't have any aircraft on their deck at the time they are launced .
Additionally Saab opened up a Sea Gripen design centre in London to complete work on a carrier version based on the NG being built for Sweden/Switzerland.
It's interesting because it's compact and has drop down engine (good for tight spaced carriers) yet quite powerful. High UK content including the AESA front-end.
http://i.imgur.com/YSaNs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/n74Te.jpg
More: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... uk-357137/
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duplex
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 05:59 PM
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kingalbert
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 06:15 PM
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duplex wrote:
Vipernice wrote:
Additionally Saab opened up a Sea Gripen design centre in London to complete work on a carrier version based on the NG being built for Sweden/Switzerland.
It's interesting because it's compact and has drop down engine (good for tight spaced carriers) yet quite powerful. High UK content including the AESA front-end.
http://i.imgur.com/YSaNs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/n74Te.jpg
More: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... uk-357137/
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Interesting .There is no doubt it will much cheaper than the SH or RAFALE.
The funny thing is that according the above graphic the distance between the rear wheels and the tailhook is really short!! LOL! |
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bumtish
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 06:43 PM
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kingalbert wrote:
duplex wrote:
Vipernice wrote:
Additionally Saab opened up a Sea Gripen design centre in London to complete work on a carrier version based on the NG being built for Sweden/Switzerland.
It's interesting because it's compact and has drop down engine (good for tight spaced carriers) yet quite powerful. High UK content including the AESA front-end.
http://i.imgur.com/YSaNs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/n74Te.jpg
More: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... uk-357137/
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Interesting .There is no doubt it will much cheaper than the SH or RAFALE.
The funny thing is that according the above graphic the distance between the rear wheels and the tailhook is really short!! LOL!
Haha! I guess they didn't read MIL-A-18717C or MIL-A-81717C or whatever! Now Goon and ELP will hammer SAAB as incompetents!
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neptune
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 07:52 PM
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[quote="sferrin.... What baffles the mind is how is "The Caped Crusader" (Adm Venlet) is going to get out of this one? ....[/quote]
He didn't get in it, LM did and they will get out of it. The sky is not falling and the "Caped Crusader" vAdm. V. will see that LM has a fix, implemented this year, 2012.  |
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flighthawk
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 08:17 PM
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He could have put the Sea Vixen on the list - the RN might be okay:
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spazsinbad
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 08:29 PM
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southernphantom
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 09:05 PM
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I'm not impressed. I don't CARE how 'common' the variants are, if it doesn't work it's useless!!!!  |
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spazsinbad
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 09:32 PM
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tacf-x
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 09:37 PM
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| Just give them some time. Every developmental project has teething issues. Considering the challenges presented by the requirements of three different branches, it's amazing the F-35 is doing as well as it is. I'd like to see any other country try to pull off something like this. |
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spazsinbad
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 09:59 PM
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stobiewan
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 12:43 AM
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I can't believe Sea Gripen is bring dragged up along with Naval Typhoon - there's a working, flying, 5th gen aircraft on the table, needs some tidying up, but hey, no, scrap that puppy and build an imaginary powerpoint plane instead.
Actually, better yet, neither Naval Typhoon or I believe Naval Gripen can handle a catapult takeoff. Shame we bought EMALS and took the ski jump off.
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southernphantom
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 01:45 AM
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stobiewan wrote:
I can't believe Sea Gripen is bring dragged up along with Naval Typhoon - there's a working, flying, 5th gen aircraft on the table, needs some tidying up, but hey, no, scrap that puppy and build an imaginary powerpoint plane instead.
Actually, better yet, neither Naval Typhoon or I believe Naval Gripen can handle a catapult takeoff. Shame we bought EMALS and took the ski jump off.
Ian
Ouch! (Literally. That kind of structural failure would be very ugly) If the RN ends up flying something besides F-35B/Cs or SHs, something is quite wrong. Just imagine MiG-29Ks...  |
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maus92
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 02:02 AM
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stobiewan wrote:
I can't believe Sea Gripen is bring dragged up along with Naval Typhoon - there's a working, flying, 5th gen aircraft on the table, needs some tidying up, but hey, no, scrap that puppy and build an imaginary powerpoint plane instead.
Actually, better yet, neither Naval Typhoon or I believe Naval Gripen can handle a catapult takeoff. Shame we bought EMALS and took the ski jump off.
Ian
The RN needs real AEW, ala E-2D - can't do that with skijump. The UK should buy/lease some Super Hornets if they need an interim aircraft (or permanent replacement if LM can't fix the -C.) |
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alloycowboy
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 02:02 AM
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1) Great those two planes were are on the chart I guess I missed them the first time I read it.
2) The good news here is that the worst case senario isn't that bad. If worse comes to worse and the engineers have to move the tail hook, they only have to move it about 2.3 feet to get it in a similar location to that of the A-4 Skyhawk.
3)This would mean running a faired tail hook underneath the engine nozzle. |
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