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How much you wanna bet they all took a little night trip over the next Islamic, terrorist, nuclear wanna-be state we and Israel are about to bomb?

Now I'm not one to support violating any nation's sovereign airspace Whistle

but definitely one of the coolest things about stealth jet ops is having the option to make your practice runs against the actual target itself Devil

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What a fantastic opportunity the Air Force gave up not flying in that exercise.
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Yes, but sending the F-22 up in DACT exercises would be like Minnesota Fats showing up at an amateur pool tournament and trying to be coy: the guy's already proven himself.... why dignify the small-fries with any sort of game at all (and possibly expose his strategies/tricks even the smallest bit) when he should really be holding them back for a big stakes event?

I'm just speculating here as I wasn't there and don't know, but I would guess the USAF saw something there they didn't like and decided to pull their jets due to security issues.

jetnerd wrote:

Yes, but sending the F-22 up in DACT exercises would be like Minnesota Fats showing up at an amateur pool tournament and trying to be coy: the guy's already proven himself.... why dignify the small-fries with any sort of game at all (and possibly expose his strategies/tricks even the smallest bit) when he should really be holding them back for a big stakes event?

That's one way of putting it.

[quote="Scorpion1alpha"]I'm just speculating here as I wasn't there and don't know, but I would guess the USAF saw something there they didn't like and decided to pull their jets due to security issues.

Like our French SPY allies? I'd still however bet the farm they know more about Iran now then before Wink

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So, let me get this straight. They can manage to parade around 6 F-22s at the Dubai Air show, but can only manage only one F-22 flyover at the Cocoa Beach air show? WTF?! WTF

All 6 weren't parading around during the Dubai Air Show.

Scorpion1alpha wrote:

All 6 weren't parading around during the Dubai Air Show.

And anyone who thinks those planes were at that *airshow* for an *airshow* believes in the tooth fairy as well.

Beazz wrote:

Scorpion1alpha wrote:

All 6 weren't parading around during the Dubai Air Show.

And anyone who thinks those planes were at that *airshow* for an *airshow* believes in the tooth fairy as well.

Ha ha, don't judge my beliefs! So why were the raptors there?

t3h_pr3t3nd3r wrote:

Beazz wrote:

Scorpion1alpha wrote:

All 6 weren't parading around during the Dubai Air Show.

And anyone who thinks those planes were at that *airshow* for an *airshow* believes in the tooth fairy as well.

Ha ha, don't judge my beliefs! So why were the raptors there?

Geee, let me take a guess... Iran, Iran and Iran? I'd bet a large chunk of change that when the US and Isreal finally do go into Iran, what they see won't be the first time they saw it? IOW, they will know exactly where they are going and what they are bombing. Then again, they could have sent 6 of the worlds most top secret fighters all the way across the planet just to tell everyone they really got gonna play Rolling Eyes

According to one of the FlightGlobal blogs, there is a video by a 27thFS pilot, saying that they faced off against F-16 Block 60s and Mirage 2000-9s and went undefeated.

That would be the "DEW Line"

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-d ... fra-2.html

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According to one of the FlightGlobal blogs, there is a video by a 27thFS pilot, saying that they faced off against F-16 Block 60s and Mirage 2000-9s and went undefeated.

Well he says they flew against pilots from UK, France, UAE and Pakistan as well as mentioning the F16 and Mirage. The UK and French pilots obviously were not flying those a/c and he also says they flew *against* pilots with 3000 hours in other a/c and that to is obviously French and UK pilots. Very unlikely any Pakistani or UAE pilots have those kind of hours in anything.

Listening to that pilot he is almost like a kid with a new toy and wanting to tell everyone about it but his parents told him to keep quiet for now. The look on his face and tone of his voice clearly shows him even totally blown away and having to literally control his excitement by how exceptionably well the F22 did. It seems they all knew it was good, but it has turned out to be good beyond their wildest dreams. Makes the fact we only getting 187 of them even more sad if ya ask me ;-((((

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Very unlikely any Pakistani or UAE pilots have those kind of hours in anything.

Don't be so sure about that. Unless stated officially by their PA or a member of their squadron, you don't know who they sent or what experiences they have or how many hours they have in fast jets of various types.

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Listening to that pilot he is almost like a kid with a new toy and wanting to tell everyone about it but his parents told him to keep quiet for now. The look on his face and tone of his voice clearly shows him even totally blown away and having to literally control his excitement by how exceptionably well the F22 did. It seems they all knew it was good, but it has turned out to be good beyond their wildest dreams.

Usually in international exercises, however small this one may have been, its not customary to brag on camera. The bragging happens at the bar, flightline and at the squadron, which I'm sure happened a lot.

Some photos from the exercise.

A USAF F-22 Raptor conducts a training mission during a multinational exercise on December 9th, 2009, in Southwest Asia. The F-22 fighters and crews are deployed from the 27th FS at Langley AFB.

USAF F-22 Raptor aircraft fly in formation during a multinational exercise on December 9th, 2009, in Southwest Asia. The F-22 fighters are from Langley AFB. In shot can be seen F-22A block 20 no. 04-4071 from the 94th FS.

USAF F-22A block 20 no. 03-4051 from the 27th FS conducts a training mission during a multinational exercise on December 9th, 2009, in Southwest Asia.

USAF F-22A Raptors break formation during a training mission on December 6th, 2009, over Southwest Asia. In shot is block 20 no.03-4051 from the 27th FS.

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