Forum: Military Aircraft of the Cold War

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L-4B Piper Cub is a better fighter and more maneuverable then the ME-109.

L-4B Piper Cub outmaneuvered a ME-109 and kills it.

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During September of 1943 near Naples, Italy, a German ME–109 fighter made a low–level attempt to shot down Capt. Schultz and "Janey". Due to this low–level engagement and the high maneuverability of "Janey", the hunter became the prey when the ME–109 over flew the tight turning "Janey" and crashed into a hill. Dutch was credited by the witnessing 3rd Division troops for downing this German Me–109 fighter. Dutch last saw "Janey" in May, 1945 on display beneath the Eiffel Tower during the Allies victory parade.

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Of course before the quote, I was stating things kind of ridiculously. The story is true. I was kind of using the same tactic that the media, politicians, and people that often post on message boards/ blogs. Take something that is truthful and or twist it and use it out of context as propaganda (to mislead) and or in delusion.

Though the kill doesn't count in some ways, in some ways it does as it is a “technical kill”. Some would say the L-4B Piper Cub outmaneuvered the ME-109.

You have to admit an L-4B Piper Cub wining a fight with an ME-109 quite an accomplishment.

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Kill by maneuver in my book. Just like the EF-111 that was credited with a kill when the MiG that was persuing it impacted terrain. The guys in the EF-111 had the terrain avoidance on for a reason at that speed and altitude!

I also seem to recall a UAV being credited with a kill by maneuver, but I can't remember the details.

Did he ever get to paint the swastika and the door? LMAO

But seriouslly, a kill is a kill.

If you chop the throttle back, the Cub will turn around in what seems not much more than the length of the aircraft. Stay low and slow, just above the treetops (or a little lower) and I'd imagine that you'd be a pretty tough target.

Mike

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If you chop the throttle back, the Cub will turn around in what seems not much more than the length of the aircraft. Stay low and slow, just above the treetops (or a little lower) and I'd imagine that you'd be a pretty tough target.

Big as it is, the same applies to a C-130. I'm getting to learn about some of the things that airplane can do, and, as an ex F-16 guy, frankly I am quite amazed.

Forum: Military Aircraft of the Cold War

L-4B Piper Cub verses ME-109