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Bushmaster - I agree with you big time, that never should have happened...never

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I thought for awhile, they couldn't recover the body, but apparently they identified him using DNA analysis. So, how much of the body did they recover? And since insurgents reached the area first, it makes me worry about what they could have possibly done with him.

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Well, since my post was deleted for some reason again I'll type it again. The guy was on a low level strafing pass so I'm sure he went down pretty quick like and he was in the middle of a combat zone so I'm sure they got to him almost instantly. Guaranteed that as soon as our guys were made aware that someone did go down that everything that could be done was done to get him back.

I'm wondering about the body as well. You don't need jack squat to get a dna test these days and they haven't came out and said either way whether we got the body back or not.
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Please guys, show a little respect here.

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3 things seem apparent.

1. No video has surfaced showing Maj. Gilbert from the "insurgent" side.
2. No massive search has been mounted to retrieve his body.
3. He was declared KIA.

I think you can pretty well extrapolate from there, and I agree in the interest of maintaining a little decorum the disposition of his remains ought to be left between his family and the AF.

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habu2 wrote:
Please guys, show a little respect here.


I'm sorry if my post seemed offensive. I certainly did not mean it that way. I was confused about it and was wondering if there was any clarification in the news that I maybe missed.

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1. No video has surfaced showing Maj. Gilbert from the "insurgent" side.


And if there is, hopefully it'll never be released. It was bad enough the first video got out.

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Was I not being respectful?
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Extracted from the newest "Red Tail Flyer" (December 8, 2006, public online PDF issue):

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Balad remembers pilot, Tuskegee Airman

By Master Sgt. Kirk Clear, 332nd Air Expeditionary Wing Public Affairs

Airmen and Soldiers from Balad Air Base and Logistics Support Area Anaconda paused Sunday to pay tribute to one of their own in a memorial service at Town Hall.

Major Troy “Trojan” Gilbert was killed Nov. 27 when the F-16 he was piloting crashed approximately 30 miles southwest of Balad.

Major Gilbert was the standardization and evaluation chief for the 332nd Expeditionary Operations Group. He was deployed from the 309th Fighter Squadron, Luke Air Force Base, Ariz.

Major Gilbert was flying a Cannon Air Force Base, N.M., F-16CG aircraft belonging to the 524th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron.

“Trojan flew with us as an attached pilot,” Lt. Col. Dave Walker, 524th EFS commander remarked at the memorial service. “But he was instantly accepted as a brother — he was a Hound.”

On his last sortie, Major Gilbert was providing close-air support for ground troops caught in a combat engagement. According to Colonel Walker, the Soldiers in that firefight told him that Major Gilbert definitely saved their lives.

Colonel Walker talked about Major Gilbert’s passion for duty and country by saying there are countless Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines still with us because of the dedication he gave.

Brigadier Gen. Robin Rand, 332nd Air Expeditionary Wing commander, knew Major Gilbert well. The major served as the general’s executive officer while they were both at Luke AFB. “In my entire Air Force career, I have not served with a more loyal or professional officer,” said General Rand.

The general also mentioned that the Air Force Theater Hospital here was naming a room after Major Gilbert because of the amount of time he spent volunteering there.

Lieutenant Col. Robert Webb, 332nd Expeditionary Operations Support Squadron commander, shared some personal thoughts of Major Gilbert. “You knew right away that he was a man that had his priorities in order,” he said, remarking that his wife and five children were the cornerstones of his life.

Colonel Webb also shared a personal story. “I will never forget the morning back in September after Trojan had single-handedly destroyed an enemy truck with an expertly placed laser-guided bomb,” recalled the colonel. “I could see right away it had been a tricky shot … Trojan made it look easy. Who knows what acts of evil Troy had averted by his actions?”

Besides being a man dedicated to his family and country, Major Gilbert was a man of God. The memorial service was held at the same time and place where he would have been for chapel service that Sunday morning.

“He (God) does not always step in to protect and shield the soldier in battle, the warrior in combat, the pilot in flight, but he does promise to never abandon us,” said Chaplain (Capt.) Randy Croft, 332nd AEW chaplain. “This promise helps explain why many soldiers do not shrink back from danger or death. The eyes of faith see beyond the destiny of death.

“We see the promises of God and trust in his providence,” said Chaplain Croft. “We look to the future with confidence that Trojan is in good hands.”


This news article includes two new pictures:



Original photo caption: Major Gilbert performs a pre-flight check of his F-16 prior to his first combat mission at Balad in September.

Note: This Viper is 89-2054 (Block 40E), 524th FS, already verified as deployed. See the listings in my topic "Balad Air Base Deployment Update" (page 29): http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopi ... t-420.html



Original photo caption: The 332nd Air Expeditionary Wing held a memorial service Sunday for Maj. Troy “Trojan” Gilbert, 332nd Expeditionary Operations Group standardization and evaluation chief. (USAF photos by Airman 1st Class Chad Kellum)

The entire related "Red Tail Flyer" page (5):



Current link for the full PDF issue:
http://www.balad.afnews.af.mil/shared/m ... 08-010.pdf
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KFDX reported:

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MEMORIAL SERVICE SET FOR MONDAY

Friday, December 08, 2006

A military service with full honors has been organized for the former Sheppard pilot killed in a crash in Iraq. Graveside services for Major Troy Gilbert will be next Monday at Arlington National Cemetery in Washington, D.C. A squadron from Major Gilbert`s Air Force Base in Arizona will conduct a flyover during the service. Gilbert was killed November 27th while providing support for ground troops near baghdad. His parents live in Wichita Falls and Gilbert recieved his pilot training at Sheppard.

Current news link:
http://www.kfdx.com/news/default.asp?mo ... s&id=13408


KFDA - TV NewsChannel 10 reported (based on AP):

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Officers with ties to Clovis to be buried this week

CLOVIS, N.M. Two U-S Air Force officers with ties to Clovis are to be buried this week at the Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia.
Major Troy L. Gilbert died November 27th when the F-16 he was piloting crashed in Iraq. The F-16 was from Cannon Air Force Base.
Services for Gilbert, whose wife is a Clovis native, are scheduled for 3 o'clock tomorrow afternoon.
Captain Kermit O. Evans died last Wednesday when the helicopter he was riding in made an emergency water landing near a lake shore in Iraq.
Evans was the head of Cannon's bomb squad. Services for Evans are set for 9 a-m Tuesday.

Current news link:
http://www.newschannel10.com/global/story.asp?s=5795061


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Air Force Burials

12.11.06

The Military will bury two pilots this week, both killed in Iraq with ties to Cannon Air Force Base.
Services for Major Troy Gilbert will take place today at the Arlington National Cemetery in Washington, D.C.
The 34 year old pilot died two weeks ago when his F-16 crashed while supporting ground troops.
And on Tuesday, a service for Air Force Officer Kermit Evans.
The 31 year old Cannon Air Force Base Captain died a week ago in Iraq when the helicopter he flew in went down.
His funeral will also take place in Washington, D.C.

Current news link:
http://www.newschannel10.com/global/story.asp?s=5797388


Clovis News Journal wrote:

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Air Force officers' burials this week

CNJ staff

Created on: December 10, 2006 - 12:34AM

Military burials for two U.S. Air Force officers with ties to Clovis who were killed in Iraq will be held this week at Arlington National Cemetery, Washington, D.C.
Services for Maj. Troy L. Gilbert are scheduled for 3 p.m. on Monday. The funeral for Capt. Kermit O. Evans will be held at 9 a.m. on Tuesday.
Gilbert, 34, died Nov. 27 when the F-16 he was piloting crashed in Iraq.
Gilbert’s wife, Ginger, is a Clovis native.
According to military officials, he was supporting troops fighting about 20 miles northwest of Baghdad.
Evans, 31, was killed Dec. 3 when the U.S. Marine Corps CH-46 helicopter in which he was riding made an emergency water landing near the shore of Lake Qadisiyah in western Al Anbar Province, Iraq.
Evans was a U.S. Air Force Civil Engineer Explosive Ordnance flight commander assigned to Cannon and deployed to the 332nd Air Expeditionary Wing at Balad Air Base, Iraq, officials said.
He was assigned as an operations officer for the Detachment 5 weapons inspection flight at Camp Victory, Baghdad.

Current story link:
http://cnjonline.com/engine.pl?station= ... l&id=27135


KAMR NBC4 reported:

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Hometown Heroes Laid to Rest

12/11/2006 CLOVIS -- Two hometown heroes will be laid to rest as their families wish their final farewells. The two soldiers from Clovis will be buried in Washington D.C.
One of them is Major Troy Gilbert. His service was held today at the Arlington National Cemetery. Gilbert`s F-16 plane crashed in Iraq on November 27th.
Tommorow services for Captain Kermit Evans, also of Clovis, will be held at the cemetery.

Current news link:
http://www.kamr.com/news/default.asp?mo ... ws&id=2311
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A squadron from Major Gilbert`s Air Force Base in Arizona will conduct a flyover during the service.


At least they won't have to worry about offending Mr. Tom McRae again since the service is in D.C.

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I simply posted some related U.S. news media stuff. And I will not discuss the important question: What was really "burried" on December 11, at the Arlington National Cemetery. The only "well-known fact" is that Maj. Troy L. Gilbert´s body was not found at the crash site (according to U.S. CENTCOM and USAF news releases). I still await a news release, provided by ACC (related to an investigation report).
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Major Troy "Trojan" L. Gilbert was laid to rest on December 11 at Arlington National Cemerety with a full honors funeral and received two medals posthumously, the Distinguished Flying Cross with Valor and the Purple Heart. On Wednesday, USAF released some pictures from the funeral. I selected and downsized the following:



Members of the Caisson Platoon of the 3rd U.S. Infantry, The Old Guard, carry Maj. Troy Gilbert to his gravesite.



Family and friends of Maj. Troy Gilbert walk behind the caisson.



Air Force Honor Guardsmen transfer the casket carrying Maj. Troy Gilbert from the caisson to the grave site.



Maj. Troy Gilbert's mother grieves ...



Brig. Gen. Noel T. Jones, 56th FW commander, gives the American flag to Ginger Gilbert, spouse of Maj. Troy Gilbert.



Maj. Patrick Ryder gives his friend a final salute. (USAF photos by Maj. Francisco G. Hamm)
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Today, USAF´s public main website released a preview of "Airmen's heroic actions highlighted on 'Portaits in Courage'". It includes latest official facts about Maj. Troy "Trojan" L. Gilbert´s last combat mission.

The story of Major Gilbert's sacrifice, along with the courageous actions of 14 other Airmen who are still serving, are highlighted in the inaugural edition of the chief of staff's 'Portraits in Courage'. The vignettes are available on Air Force Link under the Portraits in Courage area. The stories also are compiled in a soft-cover book being distributed in limited numbers to the major commands.

This project was initiated by Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley as a way to capture the grit, determination and commitment Airmen show everyday.

The book is planned as a biannual product, with nominations coming to the Air Staff through the major commands.

And here´s the vignette related to Maj. Troy "Trojan" L. Gilbert:

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Maj. Troy Gilbert's life epitomized the core value of Service before Self. Whether flying the F-16, spending time with his family, or helping with a church function, he gave unselfishly of himself to serve and protect others.

Such was the case on Nov. 27, 2006, the day Major Gilbert was killed in action protecting others. The 12-year Air Force veteran was assigned to the 332nd Air Expeditionary Wing at Balad Air Base, Iraq. He had already completed 21 combat sorties in the F-16 supporting ground forces under enemy fire. On one mission, he found and identified anti-Iraqi forces, then passed critical targeting information to coalition forces, who attacked and eliminated the threat. In another time-sensitive mission, Major Gilbert destroyed 10 insurgents concealed in a palm grove with the pinpoint delivery of a laser-guided weapon.

On the day he died, Major Gilbert heroically led a flight of two F-16s in an aerial combat mission near Taji, Iraq. On the ground, insurgents were unleashing truck-mounted heavy machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades, small arms fire and mortars to attack coalition troops. In addition, a downed Army helicopter crew was in danger of being overrun. Engaging the enemy meant certain anti-aircraft fire for Major Gilbert, but despite the danger, he went after the insurgents. He launched a strafing attack against the truck, destroying it with his 20-millimeter Gatling gun.

Despite enemy fire, Major Gilbert continued to press the insurgents with a second strafing pass at extreme low-level to help save the lives of the helicopter crew and other ground forces. He lost his life on that strafing pass when his aircraft hit the ground.

Major Gilbert's final act of moral and physical courage was conducted selflessly, just as he had always lived his life.

Source: http://www.af.mil/specials/pic/gilbert.html


Anybody who can/will provide an official investigation report, released for public?

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