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Elite 1K Joined: May 26, 2005 - 08:39 PM Posts: 1496

That's why it's called F-16.net, not F/A-18.net. Razz

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Yeah... but... can't we all just get along? :p

I love the F-16C/D and the F/A-18E/F. Both for very valid reasons... but I'm suprised many people just hate the superhornet with such intensity. And why? Because the stupid F-14 is out of service?

Maybe they should remake Top Gun, but with SuperHornets. Hehehe.

I prefer Independence Day II featuring SH instead of legacy Hornet... Smile

And watch them all get blown up??!!??!! Crying or Very sad

There has been a movie for F/A-18E/F: "Behind Enemy Lines". Cool

toan wrote:

There has been a movie for F/A-18E/F: "Behind Enemy Lines". Cool

Bad Bad but Good

What are some interesting manuvers that the SuperHornet can do?

INO, if your around... how would you rate the agility of the of the SH wrt to the regular ol' Hornet?

Does the Super Bug share the same AOA limit as the Bug? Sorry gotta ask redundant questions. Does the Super Bug lose energy like the Bug? Did they fix any of the draggy problems with that the Bug in the Super Bug?

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skrip00 wrote:

What are some interesting manuvers that the SuperHornet can do?

Vertical pirouette, tail stand, and a couple of other tricks. In the pirouette the FCS actually knows when the pilot is performing the move and assists with it. Cool

The SH demo for the airshows is probably the best in America right now until the F-22 demo starts. There are some things it does that you wouldn't think a plane without TVC could do.

LordOfBunnies wrote:

Does the Super Bug share the same AOA limit as the Bug? Sorry gotta ask redundant questions. Does the Super Bug lose energy like the Bug? Did they fix any of the draggy problems with that the Bug in the Super Bug?

I think the limits for both are the same at 55 degrees AoA. The SH just handles high AoA better. From what I've heard the SH is still draggy but that's kind of inherent to the desgn. I guess INO probably knows more than I do about this.

The SH and baby hornet are very similar if the baby hornet has the new software upgrade. Also ther isnt an AOA limiter in the Rhino. There is an AOA warning tone but that is only in the PA mode at full or half flaps. The manuvers that the Rhino demo team does are pretty representative of what the Rhino can do. The SH is a bit draggy when loaded down. However, if its slick stand by.

It´s not my topic, guys. But by searching www.navy.mil for photos related to the ongoing Lebanon crisis, I found some brand-new shots of the EA-18G Growler roll out ceremony held at the Boeing Company in St. Louis. Here are three of all seven pictures:

Original photo caption: St. Louis, Mo. (Aug. 3, 2006) - Vice President and General Manager, Global Strike Systems, The Boeing Company, Mr. Chris Chadwick, addresses the guests during the EA-18G Growler roll out ceremony held at the Boeing Company in St. Louis. The EA-18 Growler is being developed to replace the fleet's current carrier-based EA-6B Prowler. The next-generation electronic attack aircraft, for the U.S. Navy, combines the combat-proven F/A-18 Super Hornet with a state-of-the-art electronic warfare avionics suite. The EA-18G will feature an airborne electronic attack suite based on Northrop Grumman's Improved Capability III system, a radically new jamming and information warfare system. The EA-18G is expected to enter initial operational capability in 2009.

Hi-res version:
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Chief of Naval Operations (CNO), Adm. Mike Mullen, delivers remarks during the EA-18G Growler roll out ceremony.

Hi-res version:
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Guests get a closer look at the aircraft.

Hi-res version:
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(USAF photos by Mr. Marv Lynchard)

This brand-new Hornet version will play a significant and unique role in the future. In both ongoing operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom, carrier-based and also land-based EA-6B Prowlers still are very busy with "non-traditional" electronic warfare missions. According to some records, their current main task is to jam enemy telephone communication lines in Iraq and in Afghanistan. So I hope, the roll out of the EA-18G Growler should inspire some plastic model manufacturers for brand-new kits with their unique loadout.

Active Member Joined: Jan 10, 2005 - 07:58 AM Posts: 137

Are the ram air turbines on the ecm pods are rated supersonic now?

Active Member Joined: Jan 10, 2005 - 07:58 AM Posts: 137

Eh, some people are never going to like the SH because of what it is replacing. Thats subjective and not objective. If those who operate it are happy, then me and my lens are happy. One thing this forum has taught me is to do research before spouting "facts" and to never jump to conclusions if I'm not an expert/trained in something. I won't lie, when it first came out, I was not a big fan. Taking the Tomcat's place? How dare ANY jet dare attempt such a feat. TV documentaries didn't help either since they mostly showed straight and level or catshots. Behind Ememy Lines helped a little but heck, the jet got shot down, can't be too good right?
Reality smacked me in the face when I actually saw it for the first time performing a demo. Suddenly all the remarks that critics had written about wing drop or being draggy went out the window. Here's a jet that can stand on its tail and with a waggle of the stabs, bunt the nose over with complete control (mind you this was pre-F-22). The high speed pass was not slow at all. Where people got that idea is a mystery, maybe being used to seeing the smaller baby Hornet they concluded that this larger plane was slower even when moving at the same speed. And best of all, it was loud.
Of course none of this means jacksierra to anyone who is flying or employing it but it goes to show that before you pass judgement on anything in life (especially airplanes Smile

) take the time to fully understand them first. Yes, I'll always love the that classy dame Tomcat but the Super Hornet is a young and perky low-maintainence lady. How can I not like that?

(in case you can't tell, I'm still wired from spending 3 days around tactical jets)

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Why is there so little love for the F-18 Super Hornet?