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Anonymous wrote:

What dose the USAF Issue survival food pack consist of, what dose it taste like, dose it come in different flavors Wink

And where is the bathroom on a 11 hour mission?

On fighters there is a thing called a piddle pack and its basically a glamorized ziplock back filled with a sponge or absorbant [Link pending approval]

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Loader wrote:

I remember pilots "rigging" up their personal CD players or Walkman players with the ear bud type headphone so they could listen to music on the long flights from the states to OSW/ONW. Guess that wouldn't be "required" gear! Very Happy

In the past maybe but now that will get you grounded for a long time if you miss transmittance due to the rolling stones.

F16VIPER wrote:

Dear madsabre16:

Thanks for spending time answering my questions. I did not realise they had been answered.
Since I was a kid many, many years ago, I always admired pilots wearing flight gear
since to me, they were a representation of modern warriors.
Now I am trying to understand more about flight gear after all those years.

Let me ask you, what do you mean by:

Quote:

It would be better to fly without the PBG, but someone got duped into buying a bill of goods several years ago, so we have to wear it now. Of all the guys I've flown with throughout the years, only one dude has ever worn combat edge into combat. He was a masochist, so that explains that.

I would had thought that pilots would be satisfied with it since, it would allow them to make it easier to pull gs safely. I have also read a comment in the book Boeing F-15e strike Eagle book by Davies and he says in page 114 next to a photo of a pilot wearing his flight suit: "Pags models the latest in aircrew attire, including the infamous "poopy suit", but he does not say why it is infamous. Are you able to help me understand this.

thanks again for replying

The poopie suit is the CWU 74/P and it pisses pilots off becasue its hot and its tight around there neck and wrist its baggy and makes flying in the jet like flying in a hot box the zipper stud often digs into there chest and has a liner called the CWU 21/P which adds to the heat.

The only way in and out is chest zipper and it makes it hard to use a piddle pack if even [Link pending approval] '

Its like heavy unventilated footy pajamas over your clothes with a wet suit underneath it [Link pending approval]

So infamous was just military [Link pending approval]

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nikko123 wrote:

MBU 5/P is never ever ever worn and never will be again as far as the HGU 55/P if you hope to get one it needs to be custom fitted by a professional also the Air Ace survival vest is whats worn and it needs specific components depending on the Majcom the clothing items you can get from a surplus but as far as the gear itself good luck... With the helmet you need a visor and the masks of all kinds from the 12/P to the 20/P which is all I have ever built come in peices and have certain torque values and safety standards as well as screw lenth lock tight brands tackings and 100 pound test cord the life support gear aka pilot gear requires alot more than people know so I wouldnt buy the stuff if I were you it may cost more harm than good...

Bloke wrote:

Everyone has a KEVLAR HGU-55/P as opposed to the USAF specs that do not require kevlar!

Excellent choice Bloke...a true CRASH helmet. The current 55/P shell won't do much to keep your squash intact if the Sierra hits the fan.

Bloke wrote:

The integrated Life Preserver/Survival Vest has much higher retention speeds (800 KIAS) than ANYONE is flying with in the entire world & in my PROFESSIONAL opinion

Those are much better than the traditional LPUs. I hate to sound morbid, but the pilot will fail before that vest will.

After having spoken with Brian Udell and Jon Counsell, I learned that both men had their LPUs ripped off of their harnesses during their supersonic ejections. Udell nearly drowned trying to board his life raft. That vest would have made it much easier for both men, considering their cicumstances.

I understand we recently had a Viper pilot from Shaw survive a Mach 1+ ejection. I'd like to find out how both he, and his LS equipment fared.

Bloke wrote:

PS. "Poopy Suits" BITE!

TWO!

Beers and MiGs were made to be pounded!

TC wrote:

I understand we recently had a Viper pilot from Shaw survive a Mach 1+ ejection. I'd like to find out how both he, and his LS equipment fared.

I'd like to hear an update on that guy. has the AIB released any info yet?

OK Dudes,

I've been promising picture of our gear for months so here you go...

(Apologies some of the pictures are so dark, i'll retake a few tommorrow in the daylight for you.)

Integrated Life Preserver / Survival Vest.

Four LARGE Interior Pockets

All of this gear is kept in VAC-U-LOC Water Tight bags, if its not waterproofed already, I took the gear out of the bags so you could see it better. (1,2, or even 3 ZIPLOCs ARE NOT WATERPROOF!!!)

McMurdo Pains Wessex, MK4. Day Night Distress Signal.
(45 Seconds Dense Orange Smoke & High Intensity Flare.

Red & White LED Long Life Flashlights, Laser Flare (This thing fookin' Rocks!)

2x Orion Dye Markers & 1x USAF Standard Issue Dye Marker
(Coast Guard says this is the most visable thing they can see during the day, second to smoke.)

MS-2000M Signal Strobe & IR Filter for night, Gerber Multi 600.

Nav Comm 200, (the AN/PRC-90 is in the shop getting a service)

Lowrance Air Map 500.. Handy bit of gear.

Good old Signal Mirror!

This is has a dual purpose, its a thermal heat blanket, but the Coast Guard says this huge piece of "Tin Foil" actually would show up on the Helicopter's radar! Sweet Huh!?

This is actually an IFF Marker, its 5ft x 5ft & bright orange & pink, so I keep it for extra visibility.

Jet SCREAM Whistle... No Sierra Batman, this thing is LOUD!!!
(The box suggests hearing protection during use!!)

Standard Issue, Medical & Survival kits. (I can't be bothered to list all the contents... theres ALOT!)

Cyalume Snap Lights, Infra Red, High Intensity & High Visibility

ASEK Knife System

Good Old Lensatic Compass

Revised 2006 Medical Kit.. VERY Comprehensive.

A snap of the gear together... I forgot to take an upclose picture of my Gerber knife.. remind me to take them tomorrow

I'll start posting some Cranium Cover & Oxygen Mask photos. I'll get into visor specifics, applications, regulators, anti-g garments, seat harnesses etc..

As promised, the better pictures of the Life Preserver / Survival Vest

Re F-22 CE kit.
Apart from the use of the CSU-23/P g-suit, I did not think there was a difference between the kit worn by F-16 and F-22 pilots.
Also, what is it that the f-22 drivers are doing that is different to other f-16 and f-15 pilots in terms of airframe utilization, that could be causing the breathing problem.

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Gear worn by Viper drivers