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really scary scenario: Confused

http://www.interestingprojects.com/cruisemissile/

NOTE: He reminds me of a certain ballistic expert or whatever he was, who had once worked for the one of those middle eastern dictators to build a huge gun or is he?

Your Thoughts & Comments?

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F*** thats a worry indeed.

All the more worrying in the fact I think that I may know that person. Shocked

Having said that it is NZ, one can get away with things they really shouldn't. For this one this is what I say to the NZ govt "lock him up and throw away the key, and Helen don't be nice its will look good for your election campaign". lol but seriously people like him I don't know whether to take seriously or not. Worrying that.

The guy by his writings allone is obviously not a terrorist. What he simply did is what I did when I was 15 yo. I went to a gas station, bought 3 packs of cigarettes, and then went to the police cruiser down the street to show him I could. I got paid $20, the gas station employee got fired...

The part you should be worried about is that not only has he proven to us that he can do it... but something he may not have thought about is that he just proved it to terrorist, that they could do it. Many backwater organizations may feel they dont have the money or scientific capability to build such a weapon and therefore not even invest on trying... However, terrorist everywhere will now start ivnestigating the research for themselves...

Interesting article though...

-Aaron

This guys cool, its probably the most lethal weapon in New Zealand at the moment. The cruise missile still exists, he says hes got it at a secret location, hes probably imporving for all we know. The guys hasn't actually worked for any Middle East compnay but Iran was believed to hav contacted him about buying his tech off him, he contacted the SIS (NZ Security and Intelligence service) which helped keep him and his tech safe.
You guys obvisely havent heard about the anarchist cookbook and the type of stuff they can make using that. His crusie missile isn't that good at the moment though, but it has the basics, he claimed at this point it could only blow up a car.

New Zealand is actually quite good with weapons tech for such a small country. After NZer Richard Pearse flow three months before the Wright brothers did. We also have a company which has made a stealth unmanned attack heli powered by diesel,
http://www.jsonline.com/bym/news/oct04/268301.asp and http://www.times.co.nz/features_hp/feat ... rogers.htm
We also did a far bit of work on the ANZAC frigates, but the government seems to blocking some of them from getting job oportunites, stupid Helen always stopping NZ business opportunites.

I just view this guy as an honest NZer who cares more about NZ security than the government.

Actually I had a friend almost get suspended from HS for owning an anarchy cookbook. I know exactly whats in there...

Wasnt planning anything bad with it...

Was more of witty science curiosity...

However, I would not try 2/3 of the things in there. Some of the more "dangerous" and "technological" stuffs are very questioning. Where did the author obtain all the background to engineer and write directions for some of those things...

-Aaron

nzenthusiast wrote:

stupid Helen always stopping NZ business opportunites.

Just curios whats her problem? last news I heard about her was when she (i think it was her, but not sure though) ordered that NZ's AF should be dissolved. She got a deathwish with military types or something? i'm from the Philippines, BTW, so it really got me curios why one of our neighboring countries would dissolve its air force. Rolling Eyes

BTW, i like the article about diesel engines for helos. that should really come in handy when u encounter heavy ground fire, imagine leakking only the fuel instead of blowing up in mid air when the tanks are hit. Shocked

Did anyone see the myth busters on bullets hitting fuel to cause explosion? I missed it but I heard they tried Air Planes, cars, etc... nothing would work...

Maybe that deserves a seperate topic but I am curious...

-Aaron

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New Zealand is actually quite good with weapons tech for such a small country. After NZer Richard Pearse flow three months before the Wright brothers did. We also have a company which has made a stealth unmanned attack heli powered by diesel,
http://www.jsonline.com/bym/news/oct04/268301.asp and http://www.times.co.nz/features_hp/feat ... rogers.htm
We also did a far bit of work on the ANZAC frigates, but the government seems to blocking some of them from getting job oportunites, stupid Helen always stopping NZ business opportunites.

Yeah, the NZ rulez!

grss1982, That guy you are thinking about was Professor Gerald Bull? He did lots of work for the US army. He was considered a ballistics genius. Think he was a Canadian.

He worked on Saddams so called supergun. He was supposedly "bumped off" by someone`s foreign intelligence service.

I actually work with a guy who worked for a british company that made sections of that supergun. This guy actually machined the sections. The company was told they were for an oil pipeline. My co-worker said all the guys who worked on it were a bit dubious because of the unusually high machining tolerances that were requested. It all erupted into a huge scandal over here.

The prospect of terrorists acquiring cruise missiles I believe are remote. In free societies the terrorist doesn`t have to go to that trouble unfortunately. All we can do is to be extra vigilant, the people have to be "the eyes and ears".

If this fellow in NZ didn`t publish his research, somebody else may have.
Western governments must employ people to sit in rooms dreaming up ideas like this to develop ways to counter them.

A cautionary note for NZ. The British government thought about scrapping huge chunks of the Royal Navy in 1982, then a lttle conflict happened that changed their minds! Never say never! Only a fortune teller could say that NZ will never need an airforce.

Elite 1K Joined: May 26, 2005 - 08:39 PM Posts: 1496

With regards to the Anarchy Cookbook, a lot of the recipes in it are very dangerous. One of them is TATP (triacetone triperoxide, aka Mother of Satan. There is a reason it has that name. Its very dangerous to make, decomposes quickly, and you never what you have until it blows up in your face. Last I heard it was what was used in the London bombings. Nasty, bad stuff.

I don't even need $5000. Just go to the hobby shop, get a little GPS receiver, surf the net, and you've got a flying bomb. Heck, there's a whole bunch of almost ready to fly airplanes big enough to cause problems...

parrothead wrote:

I don't even need $5000. Just go to the hobby shop, get a little GPS receiver, surf the net, and you've got a flying bomb. Heck, there's a whole bunch of almost ready to fly airplanes big enough to cause problems...

Not to mention high powered rocketry. The recipes for solid propellant are well known. 6061 -T6 for the casing (or 4130), a graphite nozzle turned on a lathe, a fin can (easy to make), If you want to use fuel that's hard to trace use a sugar motor (ingredients hard to trace). And so on and so forth. None of this is news and is freely accessable on the net to anybody who knows how to use Google and has five minutes. Is it going to be a Trident D-5? No. Does it need to be? Nope.

Helen is slwoing killing the RNZAF off, she got rid of air combat capability in 2001, she cancelled the project to get F-16s to replace them two years earlier. She has been upgradeing our P-3Ks and our C-130Hs but these upgrades are rather pethetic considering the opposition party was going to buy new ones or invest in possible replacements. These upgrades are only really there to hold the aircraft structure together and replace electronics that companies no longer support. She is claiming to be replacing the Huey with NH-90s, but there has been talk of her trying to prchase them without the weapons pack essentially door guns. She is pretty much trying to remove combat capability from the RNZAF.

I say good Job... We can't get complacent. What'd really scare me is if they could make a Cruise missile like that in very large numbers and do USS Cole style attacks. Imagine if they were able to get the things to do a popup before impact! Wouldn't do much damage to the ship but would kill a lot of sailors. Could severely damage aircraft at airbases too... Possabilities are endless when you can kill from 100miles.

Right now, all they can do is suicide bomb. With something like that, they wouldn't have to kill themselves... Now THAT would be dangerous.

I'm curious just how long Saddam's supergun would last. 4 Hours? Maybe 5? An israeli viper would just drop some Dumb Iron on it and that would be that...

nzenthusiast wrote:

Helen is slwoing killing the RNZAF off, she got rid of air combat capability in 2001, she cancelled the project to get F-16s to replace them two years earlier. She has been upgradeing our P-3Ks and our C-130Hs but these upgrades are rather pethetic considering the opposition party was going to buy new ones or invest in possible replacements. These upgrades are only really there to hold the aircraft structure together and replace electronics that companies no longer support. She is claiming to be replacing the Huey with NH-90s, but there has been talk of her trying to prchase them without the weapons pack essentially door guns. She is pretty much trying to remove combat capability from the RNZAF.

So the million dollar question is: Does she have an axe to grind with RNZAF or what? Rolling Eyes

My country might be poor and have an air force that wont even last a minute against China's, but at least our president did'nt get rid of its aircombat capability. Wink

My heart goes out to all those NZ-based f-16.net forumers who where heartbroken when their fighters were disposed. Crying or Very sad

Anyway!! Back to the topic at hand. Twisted Evil

parrothead wrote:

I don't even need $5000. Just go to the hobby shop, get a little GPS receiver, surf the net, and you've got a flying bomb. Heck, there's a whole bunch of almost ready to fly airplanes big enough to cause problems...

your talking about RC controlled planes, right? but are'nt they limited in the payload they can carry? u need a lot of explosives to blow a a fairly big target like the control tower of an airport or even a jet liner.

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