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MKopack
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 Posted: Jul 25, 2005 - 08:57 PM
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Joined: Apr 08, 2004 - 11:51 PM
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Location: North Carolina, USA
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During the late 80's at MacDill we ran a test with some BF Goodrich retreaded tires. As I recall they planned on testing for 2-3 weeks and they guaranteed that they'd be 'just as good as the normal ones' (there were some skeptical mechs on the flightline as we installed them...)
Two of the first three 'test' aircraft lost the treads on one or both mains at touchdown, fortunatly with no other damage to the aircraft. It ended up being a very short test.
BF Goodrich tires tended to have a short lifespan on the main gear, as opposed to the standard Goodyear's, although they would usually outlast the Goodyear's on the nose. It was worth it to get to know the wheel and tire shop guys to get your choice.
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F-16A/B/C/D P&W/GE Crew Chief and Phased Maint.
56TTW/63TFTS 1987-1989
401TFW/614TFS 1989-1991
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chickenlegs
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Posted: Jul 25, 2005 - 09:00 PM
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Joined: Apr 10, 2004 - 06:07 PM
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Right now Michelin's are the preferred choice just for that reason......
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studer
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Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 05:50 PM
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Joined: Jun 06, 2012 - 05:42 PM
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Location: dallas texas
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| There is a company doing refurbished carbon brake stacks for the F-16 and F-15. Using the 2 for 1 method. It's called Carbon Component Tech Services, located in Addison Texas. The cost is about a third of the price of new OEM, and this process has been tested by the US Air Force and meets or exceeds OEM specs. The USG may not be using it but foreign Military are! |
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landinggearguy
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Posted: Feb 12, 2013 - 08:59 PM
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| As a USAF landing gear engineer, I should say that, while the 2 for 1 method has been qualified on F-16, CCTS is not a USAF approved source for F-16 2 for 1 carbon brakes. |
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bigdaddy69
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Posted: Apr 03, 2013 - 05:52 PM
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As a mechanic of 25 years, I don't see where CCTS was stating they were an approved source for USAF although they must have been an approved vendor at one time if they work to USAF approved drawings. They are howerever an approver source for foriegn militaries.
Does a facility have to be approved by USAF to sell a product? I think not. Foriegn militaries are quite capable of testing products and forming there own opion.
Furthermore USAF doesn't use 2:1 on the F16 so there would be no approved supplier for this.
I also know that the 2:1 disks have been around for a long time and continue to be used in several Foreign militaries with NO issues. They continue with this program due to the fact that the cost savings are immense.
Not sure why Uncle Sam hasn't looked into this. |
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neurotech
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Posted: Apr 04, 2013 - 03:23 AM
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| I thought that there was an alternative manufacturer of brake discs for the F-16 that filed GAO protests etc after they were dropped because the disks didn't last nearly as long as the primary manufacturers discs. |
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bigdaddy69
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Posted: Apr 04, 2013 - 03:15 PM
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Joined: Apr 03, 2013 - 05:04 PM
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UTC (Goodrich) is the sole MFG. for Blk. 32, 50, 52 and 60. ABS was the supplier for the early block aircraft and the Blk. 40 The reason ABS , which is now MABS,is not used is the carbon they produce does not last as long as the UTC stuff. Density and carbon fiber pattern are the key elements in longevity.
There are a couple of places that make carbon but are not USAF approved suppliers. |
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