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Russia has strong miltary relations with a nuke power India (in asia). US should devalop relations with Pakistan also a nuclear power to maintain strong position in Asia. and should sell F-16 to Pakistan

America should release the jets to make relation with pakistan more stronger as Pakistan is playing a major roll in war on terror and Bush Administeration knows that is needs Pakistan most in war on terror

i am sk & I tel us that in my mind I thing before the musharaf to us that us never give f-16 to pakistan becouse he show his very good friend of pakistan but he never our friend in any event than we need him my english is very weak but you under stand american was selfish he is.... his ""charity of 3 billion is never feel us that he is our friend we want f-16 becouse they are our need if amrica is our friend like past they never give us f-16 and I suggest pakistan president that he think that the never taking of f-16 is the selfishing & bed thinking of amercian for us f-16 is good plains but not good mirage 2005 & I suggest to pakistan he purchase mirage 2005 chines f-10 & f-11 for paf

Pakistan Should Get the Rafale It can beat the Indian Su-30MKI

US should give pakistan the F-16s so that the balance of power in south asia be maintained. US is giving hightech military equipments to india directly or from israel but refuses to give the planes to Pakistan instead of receiving the money of the planes. this is very unjustice.

Indians are afraid to hell of our galant and highly skilled pilots..even these 32 F-16s will prove enough for us always...America should be ashamed of keeping our US$650 Million for the paid out deal...Commercially, Morally and Ethically it is WRONG.

PAF can get all the F-16s they want. Hell they don't stand a chance against the IAF Mirages and Su-30MKI Flanker with their Matra Super 530D and R-77 Adder long range missiles. Even our MiG-21s are now equipped with Adders. And everyone knows the close combat skills of IAF pilots. PAF F-16s ain't got BVR missiles.

A comparison: PAF vs IAF: MiG-21 vs F-7 , Mirage-2000 vs F-16 , MiG-23 vs Mirage III, Jaguar vs Mirage V , MiG-27 vs A-5 Hell we still got MiG-29 Fulcrum and Su-30MkI Flanker to kick whatever is left of the PAF after combat. PAF vs IAF is like Australia vs Bangladesh in cricket

To balance the air power between India & Pakistan ,to maintain peace, US should rethink about the delevery of F-16 fighter plains to Pakistan. Every one knows imbalanced air power between two rival nuke nations could destroy the south asian stability.

i think iaf is basically struggling with their old fighter planes recently IAF has to ground their migs mig21 IAf is also having serious problem with their combat pilots training as they are not well trained up to the mark to even compete with pakistani pilots alos IAF pilots morale is extremely down bcoz of increasing crash rate and high casualty rate

the other big problem with IAF is shyness of their youth to join IAF according their own media reports indain armed forces dont get sufficient induction in their armed forces as the youth is not interested in joining IAf indian armed forces dont get respect even in their own country the armed forces profession is not considered respectful in their own country for confirmation refer to fizzaya a book written by well known indian authors pushpinder singh ravi rakheye and peter

how can IAf fight with PAf when PAf get best of the youth in pakistan bcoz in pakistan pakistani armed forces as a profession considered quite respectable and every one knows that even today world defence analysts and aviation writers consider PAF pilots very efficient and competent

u cant compare IAF and paf in terms of weapons bcoz IAf is always been having latest and advance planes even in 1965 iaf was having hunters more high tech planes when compare with f-86 but even thev PAf pilots beat them in dogfight

to win a war in air you cant only rely on high tech and advance planes you also need well trained pilots to fly in the air which IAF dont have how can one talk about IAF pilots competency and efficiency when they dont konw even how to land the planes as most of their planes takeoff from an airbase but they dont return back to airbase they usually get crashed while maikng landing approach

there armed forces officers have to approach indian courts or they file cases against IAF senior officers and IAf administration that shows their discipline and competency even INDIAN writers praise PAF capabilities and pilot skills in dogfight and other aspects of combat flying

PAKISTAN AIR FORCE is the best air force in the world in terms of pilot training it is even praised and admired by indian aaviation writers and analysts and also by US defence analysts who rank them among the best pilots and aggressive dogfighters" a comment given to pakistani pilots by churk yeager" fist man to break and cross sound barrier.

f-16 is the world class combat fighter the plane always comes with flying colors from a mission mig-29 and SU combat planes cannot math f-16's performance during gulf war f-16's shotdown mig 29 in dogfight mig- 29 was not been able to shoot even f-104 in gulf war mig -29 again met failure in bosnia war with the combination of best planes like f-16s and best operators PAf can prove its abilities and mettle in air Student from pakistan

IAF airfirce mig 21 crash rate is so high that even if they get equipped with damn stealth tech. they wont stand against PAF and cannot fight with PAF combat planes.

to fight you have to keep the plane in air or airworthy migs cant fly or remain in air more than couple of seconds due to pilot error and tech failure they often get crashed, then how can they do dogfight with PAF. as for as mirage 2000 is concerned the plane is not suitable for dogfighting as it take a minute to turn

Well, the worst of the things: US never gave us the remaining F-16 aircarfts. And perhaps it is going to provide India with these. This is a strategic error US would be making if it does so.

As India has stronger ties with the Russia, US should develop closer ties with Pakistan in order to have her hold in South Asia.And another important thing is that as the US is being projected as an anti-Islam country it should support Pakistan at the fullest in order to avert this thinking that's developing in many peoples' minds presently.

Shoaib Akhtar. Rawalpindi.

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