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Are the 2.75" Mighty Mouse or the 5.00" Zuni rockets used anymore on the F-16 or any aircraft? I know they were used a lot during Vietnam but was wondering if they are still around now and if so which aircraft use them. Also, I understand Napalm is not used anymore by the U.S. either.
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The USMC still uses Zuni and is doing LGZ (Laser Guided Zuni) trials now.

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Napalm is not the politically correct name anymore - Firebombs however are. International conventions prevent the use of firebombs on anything but hard targets.

But as Spudman says, the Zuni's are mostly a USMC weapon. You can however still see Vipers carrying LAU-68's staggerd on TER. But that's about it of the weapons you mention.

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Turkish "Cirit" (=Javelin) laser guided 2,75" rockets have been tested on Cobra gunships and have been found very efficient for lightly armored targets, that need not to be hit by an Hellfire or TOW. But I do not have any information if these can be used by Vipers or any other fixed wing aircraft.
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Technically, the Viper can carry the LAU-10, but this is mainly a USN/USMC weapon

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2.75 inch rockets, guided and unguided are used by helicopters of the US Army and US Marines on their helicopters:
- AH-64A/D Apache
-AH-60L/M Direct Action Blackhawks
- AH-6M Little Birds
-OH-58D Kiowa Warrior
- AH-1W/Z Cobra/Viper
- UH-1N/Y Iroquois/Venom (Huey)

The Army uses the DAGR as it's guided rocket which is launched from standard Hellfire missile launches. The USMC uses something a little bit different called the APKWS, which I believe uses a modified rocket pod. Both weapons systems take the standard unguided Zuni rocket and add a semi-active laser seeker and control fins. I imagine these weapons will make their way to CAS aircraft like the A-10 and AV-8B in addition to UAVs.
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edpop:

I'm pretty sure the LAST 'napalm' in the US inventory was expended on 'H.E. hill' on the Gila Bend North Tac range in 1976 from an F-100D.

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USAF vipers shoot 2.75 in rockets all the time. HE, WP, and Illum. Mostly FAC-A stuff
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Boman wrote:
Napalm is not the politically correct name anymore - Firebombs however are. International conventions prevent the use of firebombs on anything but hard targets.



That's not technically correct. The only restrictions covering incendiaries is that they may not be used against enemy forces in concentrations of civilians. We currently use the Mk. 77 firebomb, which uses a kerosene-based agent in place of actual napalm.

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I've never seen an A-10 go out hunting (Afghanistan) without 2.75s
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mgelevli wrote:
Turkish "Cirit" (=Javelin) laser guided 2,75" rockets have been tested on Cobra gunships and have been found very efficient for lightly armored targets, that need not to be hit by an Hellfire or TOW. But I do not have any information if these can be used by Vipers or any other fixed wing aircraft.


Cirit's interface is MIL-STD-1760 compliant, so it can be fitted to any manned / unmanned air or land platform supporting such I/O.
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