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alloycowboy
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 12:34 AM
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spazsinbad
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 12:47 AM
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 12:58 AM
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At least Center for Defense Information - from which Wheeler hails - is consistent. This is from 1987!
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Defense without Weapons
CDI claims to stand for a “strong defense”-a position boastfully printed atop every issue of CDI’s flagship newsletter, Defense Monitor-but it has proposed the cancellation of the B-1 bomber, anti-satellite weapons, the Stealth bomber, the MX missile, civil defense programs, the DIVAD air defense gun, the Trident submarine, the Midgetman mobile missile, the C-17 cargo aircraft, sea-launched cruise missiles, intermediate-range nuclear missiles, chemical weaponry, the Strategic Defense Initiative, the AMRAAM radar-guided missile, the JVX vertical lift
aircraft, and the A-6E Navy attack aircraft. CDI has also advocated removing all nuclear weapons from U.S. aircraft carriers, scrapping tactical nuclear modernization, removing all aircraft and surface-to-surface missiles capable of hitting targets in the Soviet Union, and removing all forward deployed atomic demolition munitions. As La Rocque explained his views before a forum of religious leaders in 1982: “There is no way to defend against [Soviet] ballistic missiles carrying nuclear weapons. So ‘superiority’ has become meaningless in military terms.” Although it has paid occasional lip service to the need for a modest nuclear-armed submarine capability, there is not one noteworthy weapons system that CDI has worked to support over its 16-year existence. And in the past 30 issues of Defense Monitor, which is published 10 times a year, CDI has derided almost every major new weapons system or defense program as either provocative, a waste of tax dollars, or not in the security interests of the nation.
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 01:24 AM
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Winslow Wheeler better known as Whiskey Wagon.  |
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 01:38 AM
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| Why does anyone take what this Wheeler character says seriously? |
_________________ Einstein got it backward: one cannot prevent a war without preparing for it.
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 02:33 AM
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count_to_10 wrote:
Why does anyone take what this Wheeler character says seriously?
Not everyone is in the know. That's a major issue with aircraft programs, a majority of the politicians involved have no prior service and/or experience with the matters they happen to be dealing with.
Hence, Wheeler and friends are able to feed a load of bull to the Canadians. |
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 02:39 AM
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| Cheap politics by a cheap political party in Canuckistan . . . The NDP is counting on the ignorance of the Canadian MSM, especially the all socialist CBC (Canadian Broadcorping Castration) to act as an echo chamber for the fraud the politicians are carrying out with these hearings |
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 03:12 AM
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| Why not invite the whole gang.. Kopp, Goon, Sprey, Stevenson etc. and Sweetman can cover the whole circus? Now that would be something to behold. LOL |
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 02:14 PM
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popcorn wrote:
Why not invite the whole gang.. Kopp, Goon, Sprey, Stevenson etc. and Sweetman can cover the whole circus? Now that would be something to behold. LOL
Invite the lot to an all expenses paid junket on a nice yacht. Then sink the yacht.
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Posted: Aug 22, 2012 - 05:32 PM
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I can just see the headlines now:
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FLASH: Seal Clubs Back.
In a bitter twist of irony, several reporters who were on hand for the testing of the F-35 and its first live weapons test were killed when their yacht drifted into the target drop zone. Sources close to the investigation say that there are indications that there may have been a GPS jammer on board the yacht and that the 2000lb JDAM used during the test may have homed in on the yacht. What was not known prior to the test is that the JDAM's anti-jammer mode was being tested at the time and the JDAM was programmed to home in on the GPS jamming signal. Apparently the yacht's jammer was more powerful than the one being used in the test and the JDAM was baited into going after the yacht instead of its intended target.
No information is available at this time why the reporters, known critics of the F-35 program, would have had a GPS jammer on their yacht or why they would have intentionally advanced close to the JDAM's drop zone. An investigation was stated after the incident and the DoD announced that regular press updates will be made available.
In unrelated news, the JPO announced that their logo was being updated.
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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 12:25 AM
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| I hope WW gives his views on performance and technical aspects of the jet in which case he should be slapped,down just like,APA and,REPSIM Down Under. |
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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 12:26 AM
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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 12:56 AM
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| As the news reports suggest, this gathering was brought together at the behest of the NDP to examine the "mismanagement" of this acquisition and question whether this is the best option available. They invited other individuals to bring "alternate" views, but basically everybody declined. I suspect most saw the early list of the participants and knew precisely what the NDP was getting at. Its a slight bit telling that even Boeing steered clear of this one. |
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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 01:29 AM
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| To examine "mismanagement" admits mismanagement. Sounds like the old tar baby story. |
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