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duplex wrote:

Hello mate, nice to hear from you again.. The SPECTRA system is combat proven and considered more mature than Eurofighters Dass.

Hiya Duplex!! Nice to hear from you and thanks for the welcome back.
There was an ex in the last 2-3 years between RAF and the French, Typhoons V Rafale, all the BS aside the RAF crews did say that SPECTRA was "effective", whether that means it thwarted their simulated attacks remains to be discovered but it seemed to have given DASS and CAPTOR some problems.

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snypa777 wrote:

duplex wrote:

Hello mate, nice to hear from you again.. The SPECTRA system is combat proven and considered more mature than Eurofighters Dass.

Hiya Duplex!! Nice to hear from you and thanks for the welcome back.
There was an ex in the last 2-3 years between RAF and the French, Typhoons V Rafale, all the BS aside the RAF crews did say that SPECTRA was "effective", whether that means it thwarted their simulated attacks remains to be discovered but it seemed to have given DASS and CAPTOR some problems.

Typhoon vs Rafale has caused fierce controversy ever since these mockup fights started. Its true that Rafale won more of these fights but nobody can say this was due to the SPECTRA.
Typhoons CAPTOR is definitely superior to Rafale's present PESA radar but the Rafale will get its first AESA a little earlier than Typhoon and DASS needs further improvements thats for sure. As you know Dassault has won a big order for Rafale in India which includes full ToT for licence manufacturing in India. IMO the French will insist on excluding the SPECTRA.

duplex wrote:

Typhoon vs Rafale has caused fierce controversy ever since these mockup fights started. Its true that Rafale won more of these fights but nobody can say this was due to the SPECTRA.
Typhoons CAPTOR is definitely superior to Rafale's present PESA radar but the Rafale will get its first AESA a little earlier than Typhoon and DASS needs further improvements thats for sure. As you know Dassault has won a big order for Rafale in India which includes full ToT for licence manufacturing in India. IMO the French will insist on excluding the SPECTRA.

Well, no one knows what the ROEs were for that ex and I am always dubious when I see "results" for such meetings, the details are far more interesting , ie comments concerning SPECTRA, it is the detail the public never normally sees Sad

Pre Falklands war RN Harriers flew against French Mirages and the Harriers were TROUNCED by the Mirages, The RN just wanted to see what they would be up against when they went down South.
In the end, what the RN learned, was "don`t go high level with them, force them to come down to medium lvl to play with us", well, the Argentines did and got their asses handed to them air to air because low to medium was where the Harrier is strongest, it`s acceleration is impressive at those alts but tails off at higher alts which is where they would have lost out to Mirage.
so ex`s can help everyone to learn how to overcome.

I think latest Spectra is Spec`5, India will probably get that but because they don`t know what`s inside the system, France could give the IAF what ever they wanted:)

Forum: Modern Military Aircraft

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