Forum: General F-35 Forum

Last edited by spazsinbad on Jul 14, 2012 - 10:27 AM; edited 1 time in total

A quote for 'southernphantom' who said above: "...I also don't consider the helmet especially awesome...":

The Distributed Aperture System:
http://www.sldinfo.com/?p=12819 &
http://www.sldinfo.com/?p=10198
& http://www.sldinfo.com/wp-content/uploa ... ations.pdf

“Second Line of Defense talked with Northrop Grumman Electronic Systems’ Mark Rossi about the Distributed Aperture System (DAS) on the F-35, which together with the helmet provides 360-degree situational awareness for the F-35 pilot. Mark has served as the Director of the AN/AAQ-37 Electro-Optical Distributed Aperture System (EO DAS) for the F-35 platform, having management responsibility for the product development and production of the EO DAS hardware and software....

...Rossi: The biggest problem facing DAS is the fact that it is a complete unknown to most people. But as they become more familiar with its value, they will realize just how revolutionary this system will be for the warfighter. DAS changes the game....

...The capability DAS brings to the fight, however, is new and will significantly change the way the game is played. The services have never experienced anything like the unprecedented capability provided by DAS. While pilots who have witnessed demonstrations of our capability are typically wowed by our imagery and performance metrics, few have any real idea of the magnitude of the capability they are actually receiving with the DAS system.

The key discriminator that DAS brings to JSF is full, 360-degree spherical situational awareness. We create this bubble around the airplane where we see everything of interest, all the time, simultaneously. Spherical situational awareness will significantly change the game. SLD: Is this a man-machine interface we’re talking about?

Rossi: Yes, but we make it easy for him. From a situational awareness point of view, the pilot does absolutely nothing. We are monitoring the world around him all the time and then differentiating and reporting things that occur in that global scene that are important to the pilot. It’s only when we determine that something important has occurred that he’ll even know anything’s going on — except, of course, for day/night imagery that is presented to him continually on his Helmet-Mounted Display (HMD) and on his panoramic cockpit display....

...SLD: How does the new helmet for the F-35 interact with the DAS?

Rossi: The DAS provides a 360-degree NavFLIR (Navigation Forward Looking Infrared) capability that is projected on the helmet display. FLIR is an archaic term because FLIR stands for forward looking infrared. We’re not forward looking; we’re everywhere looking. But it’s a term that people are familiar with so we stick with it. So if you think about it, all the information is already being collected as part of the situational awareness and missile warning modes. We simply determine the line of sight of the pilot based on his head position and process the raw image data for enhanced display on the HMD. He can basically see anywhere he turns his head — even if he is looking right through the floor of the plane because we see everything in 360-degree spherical space!

We also provide a separate video feed to the Panoramic Cockpit Display that displays a pilot-selected line of sight, at his discretion. All of this functionality replaces bulky night vision goggles that are significantly challenged in urban lighting situations. When we have demonstrated our NavFLIR capability to Navy pilots, they tend to be awestruck at the possibility of even seeing the horizon clearly, let alone seeing the carrier and its wake.

DAS is going to revolutionize night landings on aircraft carriers....”
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This thread has same quote: ‘Bedford Array’ May Have F-35C Uses After All

http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNph ... ssi#203914
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Because it is such a good quote it is here also: UK MOD in a MUDDLE over F-35C

http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNph ... ssi#203912

http://attach.high-g.net/attachments/da ... ef_287.jpg

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And just for the heck of it (also seen on some of the other threads above):

THREE-DIMENSIONAL WARRIORS

http://www.sldinfo.com/wp-content/uploa ... arrior.pdf (3Mb)

'[my quote] Worth rereading to become more familiar with the DAS advantages and computer training amongst many other things. Here are some quotes that got my attention. DAS + HMDS'

The Distributed Aperture System and 360-Degree Situational Awareness p.24

SLD: How does the new helmet for the F-35 interact with the DAS?
Rossi: The DAS provides 360-degree NAFLIR (Navigation Forward Looking Infrared) capability.

So if you think about it we’re out there staring at the world. We have all this information. We can then take and post-process where the pilot is looking on his helmet. We also have an auxiliary channel where he can dial in any particular sector that he wants to keep track of and we can give him near 20/20 IR imagery of the world about him.

So now night landings on carriers are fully enabled. We show this stuff to Navy pilots and they’re just awestruck that they can even see the horizon, let alone the boat out there and the wake...."

Oh wait... there's more (free steak knives?)... Also seen elsewhere on this forum but repeated here nevertheless. [Go here for same same: Helmet-mounted displays http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNph ... nar#215124 ]

Pilots discuss their experience flying the F-35 Lighting II during an LMCO webinar

http://www.vsi-hmcs.com/index.php/blog/ ... co-webinar
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Quotes about VSI’s F-35 HMDS from LMCO F-35 Test Pilots Alan Norman and Bill Gigliotti:
“It always gives you that outside world view so, what that gives the pilot is the opportunity to look through the aircraft essentially and Al and I have both flown this and immediately fallen in love with the capability and the idea of looking through the cockpit looking through the airplane, seeing the ground seeing a target below the airplane and being able to place another sensor on it is just unheard of and the F-35 is the first and only aircraft to do that. “ – Bill Gigliotti

“This helmet is amazing. The things that it allows us to do are amazing and what people have to realize is that this is an integrated system with a heads up display that we can move around anyway we go anyway we look.” – Alan Norman

“We get to see a 360 degrees spherical view of the world around us and honestly it brings night into day if you will- it turns night into day and gives us just a background view of what is up and what is down and which is the right way to go and in addition, the night vision camera is integrated into this so no longer do we have to wear goggles so all those things combined really are a good news story about the helmet.”
– Alan Norman

“This plane is so second nature to fly that after flying once you fall in love with it and that helmet is one of those systems that is like that.” – Bill Gigliotti

“I was just telling someone yesterday the view that you get is amazing I go back and forth with one day flying the F-35 and one day flying the F-16 and even with the wide HUD on the F-16 its too little I have to move my head.”

"...a new infrared camera as part of the distributed aperture system ahead of the cockpit is being eyed to aid landing of the F-35B aboard ships in lights-out conditions...."

Lockheed Martin Awaits UK F-35 Decision Aviation Week's DTI | Robert Wall | March 13, 2012
This article first appeared in Aerospace Daily & Defense Report.

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,242692,00.html
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Also there is a 'Burbage' quote I think claiming that the night vision must be good enough for a 'lights out' air refuel. Whatever. I hope the picture is clear. Then there is the 'Wonder Woman Jet' quote about seeing things that otherwise the human eye does not see naturally via DAS/HMDS II etc....

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So DAS automatically detects and tags any aircraft entering the F-35'S spherical SA bubble and cues the pilot accordingly, presumably on the panoramic screen which has a 360-deg. display mode?

Last edited by spazsinbad on Jul 14, 2012 - 03:09 PM; edited 1 time in total

Does this video explain? On dialup I cannot run it but made this reminder:

F-35 Simulator - AA and AG Modes / Avionics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lPZDc8mzsY

"Uploaded by DailyAirForce on Nov 12, 2010
10 Minutes long video shows F-35s' AA and AG modes."

Also: JSF Brief 20090225 - Interoperability.pdf
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_download-id-13719.html (7.1Mb PDF)

‘Such A Capable Helmet’ by Frank Colucci, July 1, 2010

http://www.aviationtoday.com/av/issue/c ... 68788.html

"...noted Brugal. “The whole idea of this helmet is multi-sensor fusion.... You can bring several different images together in the pilot’s field of view.”

The HMDS shows imagery from the Northrop Grumman Electro-optical Distributed Aperture System (EO DAS) annotated with composite symbology from other sensors. The head-slaved display affords all-round situational awareness and enables the pilot to see “through” aircraft structure via remote apertures. “If you can show it on a screen in the cockpit, you can bring it up on the visor,” Brugal said.

As currently integrated, the VSI helmet display does not now show the F-35 pilot magnified imagery from the aircraft’s Lockheed Martin Electro-Optical Targeting System (EOTS) or Synthetic Aperture Radar pictures from the Northrop Grumman active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar. Target analysis and designation are done largely on the cockpit display.

HMDS symbology nevertheless promises to reduce target location errors with the combined input of multiple sensors. Don Bolling, senior manager for business development with Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control noted, “The thing that makes the F-35 very unique and powerful is that it has a fused architecture where all the sensors are working together. You don’t necessarily know whether that information comes from DAS, the EOTS or the radar.”...
OR
http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNph ... cci#182098
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Another Colucci article here: http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNph ... cci#211993

Keep One Eye Out Dec 01, 2011 By Frank Colucci

http://www.aviationtoday.com/av/militar ... 75101.html

spazsinbad wrote:

Pilots discuss their experience flying the F-35 Lighting II during an LMCO webinar

http://www.vsi-hmcs.com/index.php/blog/ ... co-webinar

Spaz, thanks for that link! Thoroughly enjoyed that. I recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it. Thumb

spazsinbad wrote:

Does this video explain? On dialup I cannot run it but made this reminder:

F-35 Simulator - AA and AG Modes / Avionics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lPZDc8mzsY

That was a video put up two years ago, and oddly, all the images were of the X-35 (???).

That said, it was mainly about the pilots view of a 4-ship attack on a tank column, with the lead assigning and handing off targets to three wingmen and watching two forward F-35s perform air interdiction against two MIG-29s in a window on his cockpit display as it happens. Then he attacks two scrambled SU-27's as he's on the attack run. That was impressive. Definitely worth watching.

stereospace wrote:

spazsinbad wrote:

Does this video explain? On dialup I cannot run it but made this reminder:

F-35 Simulator - AA and AG Modes / Avionics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lPZDc8mzsY

That was a video put up two years ago, and oddly, all the images were of the X-35 (???).

That said, it was mainly about the pilots view of a 4-ship attack on a tank column, with the lead assigning and handing off targets to three wingmen and watching two forward F-35s perform air interdiction against two MIG-29s in a window on his cockpit display as it happens. Then he attacks two scrambled SU-27's as he's on the attack run. That was impressive. Definitely worth watching.

What I found interesting is that they seemed to have the autopilot do most of the flying.

count_to_10 wrote:

stereospace wrote:

spazsinbad wrote:

Does this video explain? On dialup I cannot run it but made this reminder:

F-35 Simulator - AA and AG Modes / Avionics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lPZDc8mzsY

That was a video put up two years ago, and oddly, all the images were of the X-35 (???).

That said, it was mainly about the pilots view of a 4-ship attack on a tank column, with the lead assigning and handing off targets to three wingmen and watching two forward F-35s perform air interdiction against two MIG-29s in a window on his cockpit display as it happens. Then he attacks two scrambled SU-27's as he's on the attack run. That was impressive. Definitely worth watching.

What I found interesting is that they seemed to have the autopilot do most of the flying.

I actually like that feature. That you can designate a target, then do other things while the aircraft flies itself there. What's not to like about that? All they need is internet access and they can read F-16.net while they're on their way! Very Happy

In deed.
Has anyone else read Dale Browns "Day of the Cheeta"? What I found interesting about the "mind controlled flighter" was not the mind reading, but that the plane flew itself -- the pilot just selected the appropriate action from a suggested list of options.

For those that are curious here are the details on the F-117 shoot down by Zoltán Dani.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zolt%C3%A1n_Dani

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